[BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML

Wed Jul 18 17:29:23 UTC 2018

Thanks again Steve!

Bob, i will send you a email about the language adding.

I will still try to use Chrome Vox with Mathjax too.

thanks a lot, you all.

Alberto Ortiz

2018-07-18 11:23 GMT-03:00 Bob Mathews <bobm at dessci.com>:

> Alberto, MathPlayer is our product. You may write me privately about it,
> but not at the address I'm using for this email. Since our companies
> merged, I have not updated my subscriptions to the new email address, so
> I'm still subscribed to blindmath with this address. Please email me at
> bob at wiris.com.
>
> Most of the information you could ever need about MathPlayer is on our
> [old] website: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/manual.htm.
> That site doesn't have information about adding a language though. I can
> help with that.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob Mathews
> WIRIS America
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Alberto Ortiz via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks again Steve!!! Thanks Joseph!!!
>>
>> I tried to read MathJax using Chrome Vox, but i did not succeed.
>>
>> I will try with  MathJax A11y extension in Chrome that Joseph recommended.
>>
>>
>> One more thing,
>>
>> I know that the Mathplayer is for free. it will be hard to add a new
>> language to MathPlayer?
>> Anybody know the team that are responsbile for the MathPlayer, that i can
>> enter in conctact with them?
>>
>>
>> Thanks again!!
>>
>>
>> Alberto Ortiz
>>
>>
>> 2018-07-16 19:00 GMT-03:00 Joseph Polizzotto via BlindMath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org>:
>>
>> > Hi Everyone:
>> >
>> > Last I had tried navigating MathJax rendered equations, I used Shift +
>> > SpaceBar to open the MathJax menu. From there, I used the arrow keys to
>> > navigate to the extension menu item and activate it. I had more success
>> > using the MathJax A11y extension in Chrome.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM Noble,Stephen L. via BlindMath <
>> > blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sorry that Portuguese did not find its way into MathPlayer. I do see
>> that
>> > > the MathJax localization does include Portuguese, so if the page in
>> > > question uses MathJax to serve the math, then you might be able to
>> get it
>> > > to work. There's a way to turn on the accessibility extension in
>> MathJax,
>> > > but you may need to check the documentation to figure ouit how to do
>> > that.
>> > > Perhaps here:
>> > > http://docs.mathjax.org/en/latest/misc/accessibility-features.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --Steve Noble
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: Alberto Ortiz <alberto.ortiz.mendes at gmail.com>
>> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:00 PM
>> > > To: Noble,Stephen L.
>> > > Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> > > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Steve
>> > >
>> > > I installed Mathplayer, now i can read some formulas on Internet
>> > Explorer,
>> > > but for some reason i still cant read on Mozzila.
>> > >
>> > > But now i realize that MathPlayer dont have Portuguese on his
>> languages,
>> > > is there anyway of reading formulas with NVDA without using
>> MathPlayer.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > - --Alberto Ortiz
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Em Seg, 16 de jul de 2018 14:56, Noble,Stephen L. <
>> > > steve.noble at louisville.edu<mailto:steve.noble at louisville.edu>>
>> escreveu:
>> > >
>> > > If you are finding that NVDA is not reading the math expressions, be
>> sure
>> > > that you have MathPlayer installed on your PC. Here's the direct
>> download
>> > > link: https://www.dessci.com/en/dl/MathPlayerSetup.exe<
>> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> > dessci.com_en_dl_MathPlayerSetup.exe&d=DwMFaQ&c=
>> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
>> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
>> > csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=
>> > BJzi4fGs8TS1mMvwQtBBJSpIfwyZp1xo7uUYqi2NgWA&e=
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > You can read more about MathPlayer on this page:
>> > > https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm<
>> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> > dessci.com_en_products_mathplayer_download.htm&d=DwMFaQ&c=
>> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
>> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=
>> > csOtbkkIRpVXtwudVasf6FC5jGDPy0Aw95kmDwLt-9Q&s=OE-
>> > YPvhxRf50qOQJMR7D4ECcl4J9utQz0vqUd6e7g7k&e=
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hope that helps,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --Steve Noble
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:
>> > > blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on behalf of Alberto Ortiz via
>> BlindMath
>> > <
>> > > blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:32 AM
>> > > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Cc: Alberto Ortiz
>> > > Subject: [BlindMath] Help with NVDA and MathML
>> > >
>> > > Hi everyone!
>> > >
>> > > I’m Alberto, and I work with Math texts in a VEL (Virtual Environment
>> > > Learning) called
>> > > Canvas and need NVDA to read formulas in this platform. However,
>> Canvas
>> > > sees LaTex as
>> > > an image which NVDA cannot read. So far I´ve described all formulas
>> like
>> > > text from image
>> > > attributes, so NVDA can read it. However, I need to find another way
>> of
>> > > doing this reading
>> > > but run into the issues as follows.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 1) Using of MathML
>> > > I’ve looked in the old threads and, as far as I know, NVDA can read
>> pages
>> > > that use
>> > > MathML. In YouTube, I’ve found a video that shows the reading being
>> made:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> > youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dckx-2Djl99Iic&d=DwIGaQ&c=
>> > OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
>> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=IiJF--XJbPEma-
>> > eRSjBibl3VTs1ouk-pGYq9rvSjUME&s=bn6ozpu7vH2X5PjrOhSY_
>> > QzlzgaBGdR0Q4JVM1NtPr4&e=
>> > >
>> > > I’ve installed NVDA to test this reading, but I couldn’t read it
>> > properly.
>> > > Therefore, I
>> > > tried to read this page that is using MathML and I also failed:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>> > freedomscientific.com_content_html_jawshq_MathML-2DSamples.
>> > html&d=DwIGaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=
>> > 67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=IiJF--XJbPEma-
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>> > rldmu2dg_CWni7I&e=
>> > >
>> > > I use Firefox and the page loads correctly but NVDA doesn’t recognize
>> the
>> > > formulas
>> > > and reads them as a normal text. In the third topic, for example, it
>> > can’t
>> > > recognize
>> > > fractions. It reads them, again, as a text.
>> > > Maybe I need some sort of NVDA’s plugin to do this reading?
>> > >
>> > > 2) Describing formulas
>> > > Does any standard exist to describe formulas? I have difficulties to
>> > > describe limits,
>> > > matrixes and equations. Now, we’re describing formulas and making
>> tests
>> > > with a
>> > > blind person to check if he can read, but we really need a describing
>> > > template.
>> > >
>> > > Does
>> > > anyone know if any type of template exists for it?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Another and last thing: is there any page with examples of accessible
>> > math
>> > > texts? If
>> > > they exist, do you know where I can consult them?
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