[BlindMath] Voice activated screen reader graphic calculators?

Sat Feb 2 02:35:29 UTC 2019

As the moderator, I want to thank Ken for his patience in helping to work
through this issue.  Please let me add my voice to his and others that
trying the tutorials that APH offers first makes sense.  Also, and I assumed
this has not changed completely, there will be other methods taught to
mathematically find the minimum and maximum points of a graph.  I am
guessing that the current need for this is a short one.  Also, Ken's point
that including certain features might invalidate the use of the calculator
in a test situation.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Voice activated screen reader graphic calculators?

I think something you don't understand is the TI-84 method of finding
minimum and maximum is the exact same way a sighted person has to do it.
The calculator will not give you the answer with out picking two guesses one
on each side.  If it just gave you the max and min the calculator would not
be allowed on some of the tests it is now.  The NSpire will do it and that
is why it is not allowed on some of the tests the 84 is.   Again I will ask
have you used the tutorials from Susan on doing Min and max?  It shows
exactly how to do it with keys and an example.    

Ken

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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Voice activated screen reader graphic calculators?

Hi all! 

 I wouldn't want to use dictation for every single math problem out there,
partly because I know what the battle is like, particularly when dictating
something like a text message or am Email. I can't count how many times when
I would watch a friend try to dictate an Email or a text only for them to
take five or ten tries before the software would get their message right. I
have had more luck with typing in my commands to SIRI instead of dictating
them. The only time I dictate with SIRI is when I have her make a phone call
or get a word spelled. I would mainly use dictation when I needed to speed
up a homework problem like finding the minamum or maximum on a graph for
example because I have not found a very efficent way to find that
information on the TI84 graphing calculator. Speaking of the TI84, my
apponyon on them so far is that they are good but a bit too complicated for
my innitial enjoyment. But they are not as simular to the normal ones as
everyone wants you to believe. For example, every time I have gone and
worked with a sited person to work my own TI84, yes, they've been able to
work my TI84 just fine but almost every single time, accessability has come
up and none of them have been able to figure that part out. Even my math
teacher and I agreed that the way the TI84 allows you to find the minamum
and maximum on a graph for example is very inefficient. I'm looking for
tools out there that would or could work along side the calculator to cover
the slow gaps. I have heard of those calculator software programs out there.
Does anyone know if any of them, particularly the free ones can do things
like finding maximum and minamum better than the TI84 can? The only one I
know of that can is the one that View Plus offers. Is that the only one or
are there others that are just as good? I usually take my laptop computer to
school because I use it for my writing class anyway. I don't mind giving it
another excuse to help me in my school work. I have Windows ten, NVDA, and
JAWS 2018 installed on it. I don't currently have Math Tipe on it. Does that
limit me with these accesible graphing calculator software? 

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This will make doing work in a group very difficult. People always think
voice is the future for blind people till they sit down and try to use it.
Just think of how fun it is to fight with the best voice activated devices,
Alexa, Siri, and Google. Now add the problem of math. I say good luck but I
wouldn't do it. At least not with the current power of voice activation.

Ken

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Hi all! 
Today, at the end of math class, my math teacher came up with a good idea.
He recamended that I should hunt for a nice graphic calculator that can be
activated by voice commands, much like SIRI is opperated. He suggested that
I get my hands on one called I think it's called Pentel or something like
it. I have not used this calculator for an iphone. I don't know if it's
screen reader accessible. Does anyone know of a graphic calculator that can
be opperated by voice, that's software on a computer or smart phone and is
screen reader accessible? I think that it might help me out in addition to
the TI84 graphic calculator. 

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