[BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers

Wed Jul 26 11:20:58 UTC 2017

Yes, Robin it is working,

can I directly start giving R commands to the buffer?
or something else is required.

On 7/26/17, Robin Williams via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Laxmisagar,
>
> No problem. To begin, it's probably worth checking your installation is
> working as it should. Can you try launching R from within Emacs with the
> command Alt+x and then the letter R? The process should launch, and ask you
> to choose the path in which to start R's working directory. you can just use
> the default for now, so press enter. You should then have the R terminal
> window opened from within Emacs, and have the cursor positioned after the >
> prompt. Then just try executing some simple commands (2+3, 4*8, etc). You
> will be able to press the up arrow to read R's output, and shouldn't need to
> use the JAWS cursor.
>
> Let me know how you get on.
>
> cheers,
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laxmisagar
> Samai via BlindRUG
> Sent: 26 July 2017 08:26
> To: Blind R Users Group <blindrug at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Laxmisagar Samai <laxmisagar304 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
> Readers
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Thanks for the time, I have added R to the path environment variable, but
> unable to edit anything on the emacs buffer.
> can I directly start writing R commands in the emacs buffer? or something
> else is required?
> I am a beginner in this, hence would request for a detailed instructions.
>
> Thank you
> Laxmisagar
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/25/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Appologies for the slow response - I've been away getting married.
>>
>> In brief, I use Vincent Goulet's modified distribution of Emacs, which
>> comes bundled with Emacs Speaks Statistics (and other utilities). In
>> all honesty I haven't done anything particularly special to make this
>> work. I'm currently using JAWS 17 under Windows 7, although I've also
>> had reports that it works well with NVDA.
>> The experience isn't perfect, but it works well enough for me. I
>> regularly have to refresh the virtual screen buffer (JAWS key +
>> escape), but apart from that it works as I would like. Install this,
>> and make sure your current version of R is added to your system PATH
>> environment variable. You should then be able to launch the R process with
>> Alt+x R.
>>
>> My typical workflow is to have the R process window open and to be
>> editing commands in a separate Emacs buffer (make sure this is saved
>> with a .r or .R extension). I then have full use of the handy Emacs
>> Speaks Statistics keystrokes. The keystrokes I use most commonly are:
>> CTRL+c CTRL+j - send the current line to the R process for execution c
>> CTRL+CTRL+r - send the currently selected region for execution, you
>> CTRL+must
>> first select the block of code you wish to send in the standard Emacs
>> way, i.e. I can provide further instructions, or you can find out online.
>> CTRL+Alt+; - comment / uncomment the selected region f - move to the
>> CTRL+Alt+end of the current code block. I've only discovered
>> this recently, and find it particularly useful. Place the cursor on
>> the opening brace ({) of a function definition or a control flow
>> statement, and press CTRL+Alt+f to move to the end of the current block.
>>
>> There are many other keystrokes available, which I should make more use
>> of.
>> One keystroke to be aware of is the _ - by default this prints the R
>> arrow (<-), to produce the _ character you must press it twice.
>> I recommend you set your screenreader to announce all punctuation, and
>> modify your .emacs file as you find necessary (I can go in to further
>> details, but mine is pretty standard). For now, let me know how you get
>> on.
>>
>> Bests,
>> Robin
>>
>> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Liz
>> Hare via BlindRUG
>> Sent: 21 July 2017 16:54
>> To: Blind R Users Group
>> Cc: Liz Hare
>> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
>> Readers
>>
>> Yes, I'm very curious about how Robin is using Emacs in Windows with a
>> screen reader!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Liz
>>
>> Liz Hare, PhD
>> Dog Genetics LLC
>> doggene at earthlink.net<mailto:doggene at earthlink.net>
>> http://www.doggenetics.com
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG
>> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Liz,
>> Robin, would be waiting for your reply.
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG
>> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I use R with Emacs (not Emacspeak) under windows on a daily basis,
>> it's by far my preferred method of working. I'm away on holiday this
>> week, so am very short of time. I'll reply in more detail next week.
>>
>> Bests
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Liz
>> Hare via BlindRUG
>> Sent: 20 July 2017 14:30
>> To: Blind R Users Group
>> Cc: Liz Hare
>> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen
>> Readers
>>
>> Hi Laxmisagar,
>>
>> I think it's pretty difficult to use a screen reader with Emacs in
>> Windows, unless you can get Emacspeak running. There is a port of
>> Emacspeak for Windows but it's not in wide use and I don't have direct
>> experience with it.
>>
>> I do use R with Emacspeak on Mac and have also done it on Linux. Emacs
>> has a package called Emacs Speaks Statistics (ESS) that facilitates
>> running R interactively. I like this setup but it has a pretty steep
>> learning curve and I kind of learn the bits and pieces I need as I go
>> along.
>>
>> Liz
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG
>> <blindrug at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindrug at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
>> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with
>> screen readers on a windows machine?
>> I request for some help.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Laxmisagar
>> Mumbai (India)
>>
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