[Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?

Thu Jun 18 15:07:12 UTC 2009

Considering that you don't know what I do for a living or what I 
make, your six figures doesn't impress me.
At 07:34 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>So, besides this meaningless mental masturbation, what else do you do while
>you sit at home living off my tax dollar.  If, as the NFB says, the blind
>can do anything the sighted can if given a chance, why do so many of you
>lazy cripples sit at home living on charity.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:17 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>
>Great rebuttal Gary!!!
>Steve
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>
>
> > Hello Jeff. Yes, we only discuss this kind of thing when you are at work,
> > because we know under your supervision it would never be tolerated. Let me
> > point out, if I may, that not all blind people are diabetics, that not all
> > blind people stub their toes when they go barefooted in the familiar
> > surroundings of their home, and that some of us do find that the ability
> > to
> > feel with our feet is of tremendous importance when doing things such as
> > vacuuming, mopping, and, incidentally, looking for dropped change. It is
> > not
> > as simple as saying that anyone with brains wears shoes, and anyone who is
> > blind is necessarily stupid if they don't. Get a grip!
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
> >
> >
> >> Is this the kind of crap you folks discuss when I'm at work.  I would say
> >> yes, if you happen to be blind and stupid.  In the house there is the
> >> problem of toe stubbing, etc.    Outside, who knows what kind of
> >> disgusting
> >> or dangerous thing you can step on or into.  At the beech, along the
> >> water
> >> line is nice.  Then there is the high correlation  between diabetes and
> >> blindness from diabetic retinopathy.  People with diabetes have
> >> neuropathy.
> >> They lose the feelings in their extremities, like feet.  Also they don't
> >> heal well.  I had a patient who, in his home, barefoot, he stepped on a
> >> nail.  It was in his foot and became infected after  a week or so.  As a
> >> consequence he lost his leg.  That must have given him a feeling of
> >> freedom.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Ron Poire
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:38 PM
> >> To: Ray Foret jr; Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> I like going barefoot in my own home.
> >> I never thought about mopping the floor or vacuuming barefoot.  I would
> >> be
> >> afraid of stubbing my toe on something, which would ruin the whole
> >> pleasurable experience.
> >> I would definitely not go barefoot in a public place, because of diseases
> >> and toe stubbing.  Not to mention national convention, where one's feet
> >> are
> >> quite vulnerable to people's canes and sniffing dogs.
> >> It's a great comic discussion, on a par with walking barefoot in the
> >> woods.
> >>
> >> Ron Poire
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
> >> To: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
> >> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:19 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Especially when the floors are all completely smooth tile, as they are
> >>> in
> >>> my
> >>> new place.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> >>>
> >>> "Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad
> >>> you
> >>> come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> >>> land"
> >>> George Seferis
> >>>
> >>> Phone or Fax::
> >>> +1 (985) 360-3614
> >>> Cell:
> >>> +1 (985) 791-2938
> >>> e-mail:
> >>> rforetjratcomcastdotnet
> >>> Skype Name:
> >>> barefootedray
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:43 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Vacuuming and mopping are much easier because it is easy for one to see
> >>> his/her work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Kathleen Millhoff" <kmillhoff at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
> >>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:31 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, you could have Robert make a TP out of this; and, yes, you haven't
> >>>> asked this question for quite some time. I would bet that the
> >>>> additional tactile and vestibular info offered by bare feet is
> >>>> valuable to blind people. to say nothing of the fact that shoes carry
> >>>> some pretty yucky stuff into the house. You should move to the islands
> >>>> where people wear shoes when necessary, but mostly are barefoot inside
> >>>> and wearing zoris (what you guys call flip-flops) outside. (some folks
> >>>> also call them slippers, but they're not the bedroom slipper kind). I
> >>>> seldom find shoes that work well for me, and this includes Berkies and
> >>>> the rest.
> >>>> also, it's always summer here I'm glad to say.
> >>>> best,
> >>>> kat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/17/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>> With summer practically upon us?  I just thought I'd  throw this out
> >>>>> there.
> >>>>> Should blind people go barefoot; either inside or outside?  It's been
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> couple or three years since somebody else broached the subject; and
> >>>>> so,
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> just thought I'd get the general opinions out there.  Can it be tied
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> blindness in any way?  IF so, why?  IF not, why?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ray
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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