[Blindtlk] Thought you all might findthisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

Tue Aug 31 14:31:23 UTC 2010

Are you suggesting then that preboarding should be forced on us? Again, not trying to  be argumentative, just asking for clarification, and offering discussion.

What about a parent who has an infant and a toddler in tow? Do you think that preboarding should be forced on them? They would likely hold people up as well.

My personal  stance is that I am not a child or an invalid, and I am not going to allow others to dictate to me as if I were.

Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647

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From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the flight 
crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling around. 
This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into consideration. 
I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew to assist 
me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business flier, then 
you know time is money!!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find 
thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations

> With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the key. 
> There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or not.
>
> We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a busy 
> intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer to have a 
> fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are others who feel 
> competent in this area and would prefer to be left alone to do it 
> themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a sighted person comes up 
> and offers some assistance which is politely refused and the sighted 
> person goes on about their business, , there is no problem. If, however, 
> that sighted person insists, grabs the blind person's arm, not taking "no" 
> for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be 
> tolerated.
>
> person
>
>
> Diane Graves
> Civil Rights Specialist
> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
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> 317-232-2647
>
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> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this 
> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>
> I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot of
> e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was related to a
> guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person force to 
> sit
> in wheelchairs.
>
> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran has, they
> might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the blind.  Who
> knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here since we are a
> non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the blind.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this 
> interesting-AirTran
> fined $500K for disability violations
>
>
>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>>
>> Ray:
>>
>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA mandates.
>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or doing
>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already had on
>> file.
>>
>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused of
>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users or not
>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>>
>> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
>> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability caller 
>> there
>> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty them a
>> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the call 
>> to
>> the ADA department.
>>
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