[Blindtlk] Thoughtyouallmightfind thisinteresting-AirTranfined$500Kfordisabilityviolations

Tue Aug 31 15:39:12 UTC 2010

what's the difference? are you going to tell someone to get up, i want that 
seat?
first sit, open seating, same thing, if they sat there first obviously the 
seat is not open.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thoughtyouallmightfind 
thisinteresting-AirTranfined$500Kfordisabilityviolations

> If I need assistance they give to me when I ask, I ask especially with the 
> dog, again my own preferences that when I get there I let them know that I 
> have a guide dog and they ask me if I would like pre boarding assistance, 
> it is not first come first serve on southwest it is open seating that is 
> different.
>
> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Independent Travel Consultant
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>
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> CST-1018299-10
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> Inc.
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought youallmightfind 
> thisinteresting-AirTranfined$500K fordisabilityviolations
>
>
>> has something changed? it is first come first sit.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought youallmightfind 
>> thisinteresting-AirTranfined
>> $500K fordisabilityviolations
>>
>>
>> > not true I fly southwest all the time.  My preferred airlines out of 
>> > Long
>> > Island, NY.
>> >
>> > The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >
>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> > Independent Travel Consultant
>> > C10-10646
>> >
>> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
>> > 1-866-580-5574
>> > skype: angeldn3
>> >
>> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>> > CST-1018299-10
>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel
>> > Inc.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:03 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you allmightfind
>> > thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disabilityviolations
>> >
>> >
>> >> this doesn't matter on southwest, the aisle is narrow and there are 
>> >> ways
>> >> of
>> >> doing it at the same pace as the others.
>> >>
>> >> Bryan Schulz
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> >> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:21 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all mightfind
>> >> thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I have observed blind individuals who refused assistance from the 
>> >> >flight
>> >> > crew when boarding and they held everyone else up while fumbling
>> >> > around.
>> >> > This is a real issue that blind individuals should take into
>> >> > consideration.
>> >> > I have vision, however, I always allow a member of the flight crew 
>> >> > to
>> >> > assist
>> >> > me in locating my seat quickly.  If you are a frequent business 
>> >> > flier,
>> >> > then
>> >> > you know time is money!!
>> >> > Steve
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>> >> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:03 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find
>> >> > thisinteresting-AirTranfined $500K for disability violations
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> With regard to preboarding, I think the word "preference" is the 
>> >> >> key.
>> >> >> There was a time when it was forced on us whether we wanted it or 
>> >> >> not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are all individuals. Another example would be perhaps crossing a
>> >> >> busy
>> >> >> intersection. There are some blind individuals who would prefer to
>> >> >> have a
>> >> >> fellow crosser offer an arm or some assistance. There are others 
>> >> >> who
>> >> >> feel
>> >> >> competent in this area and would prefer to be left alone to do it
>> >> >> themselves. With regard to the latter group, if a sighted person 
>> >> >> comes
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> and offers some assistance which is politely refused and the 
>> >> >> sighted
>> >> >> person goes on about their business, , there is no problem. If,
>> >> >> however,
>> >> >> that sighted person insists, grabs the blind person's arm, not 
>> >> >> taking
>> >> >> "no"
>> >> >> for an answer, that constitutes a major problem and should  not be
>> >> >> tolerated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> person
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Diane Graves
>> >> >> Civil Rights Specialist
>> >> >> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> >> >> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> >> >> 317-232-2647
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> >> >> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> On
>> >> >> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:34 AM
>> >> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> >> interesting-AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am making note to this because after the convention, I got a lot 
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> e-mails asking me who to contact at the airlines where it was 
>> >> >> related
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> guide dog user, having issues with the staff or a blind person 
>> >> >> force
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> sit
>> >> >> in wheelchairs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is just a topic, and we don't know what other issues airtran 
>> >> >> has,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> might not think it is worth noting about guide dogs and the blind.
>> >> >> Who
>> >> >> knows, I posted it as interest and reminding people here since we 
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> non-profit organization that is an advocacy group for the blind.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheryl Echevarria
>> >> >> Independent Travel Consultant
>> >> >> C10-10646
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://Echevarriatravel.com
>> >> >> 1-866-580-5574
>> >> >> skype: angeldn3
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>> >> >> CST-1018299-10
>> >> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and
>> >> >> Travel
>> >> >> Inc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>> >> >> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:58 AM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> >> interesting-AirTran
>> >> >> fined $500K for disability violations
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> The objection is to forced pre-boarding.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >>> On
>> >> >>> Behalf Of Peachtree Travel
>> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:51 AM
>> >> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thought you all might find this
>> >> >>> interesting -AirTran fined $500K for disability violations
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ray:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> By law, all the airlines are required to have a system in place to
>> >> >>> document all disability complaints.  This stems from the ADA
>> >> >>> mandates.
>> >> >>> Sounds like Air Tran was either underreporting the complaints or
>> >> >>> doing
>> >> >>> nothing in a timely manner regarding the complaints they already 
>> >> >>> had
>> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> file.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It also seems most of the complaints that Air ran is being accused 
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> underreporting or not taking action on are from wheelchair users 
>> >> >>> or
>> >> >>> not
>> >> >>> helping a blind person get to their flight or connection on time.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I remember when working for Marriott International, we had strict
>> >> >>> guidelines for ADA calls.  We could never tell the disability 
>> >> >>> caller
>> >> >>> there
>> >> >>> wasn't any accessible rooms in the hotel.  If we couldn't guaranty
>> >> >>> them
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> accessible room, we had to finish the reservation and transfer the
>> >> >>> call
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> the ADA department.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Maurice
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We know that you have a choice in choosing a Travel Partner and 
>> >> >>> truly
>> >> >>> appreciate that you have selected Peachtree Travel.
>> >> >>>
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