[Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I do

Mon Jul 4 18:54:51 UTC 2011

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I do


> Wow!  for a self-classified "shy person", you've really said a lot here; 
> and, to speak frankly, I admire that.  Oh, how I wish with all my heart 
> that more people had your purspective!!!
>
> A lot of food for thought in your message that's for sure Charlotte!!!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
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>
>
> On Jul 3, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Charlotte Czarnecki wrote:
>
>> Hi, I would agree that while there are sighted people who do not feel as 
>> if they are in an equal realationship or they feel as if people concel 
>> them out because of a certain characterist like height, weight, facial 
>> features, etc, I strongly believe that blind people, especially women 
>> must work a thoughsand times harder to find a special someone.  Blindness 
>> is perhaps the most feared disability in our world and sighted people 
>> will not totally associate themselves with what they are afraid of. 
>> Also, if you are as independent as myself, most sighted people are 
>> intimidated by that.  They just can't comprehend that a blind person 
>> could manage a home and take care of herself.  I have had a lifelong 
>> problem with dating and it's the lack there of.  A lot of it is my 
>> blindness but a lot of it is my Catholic faith. I take what the Church 
>> teaches about relationships very seriously and because of that, I am very 
>> picky about men.  A lot of men tend to hunger for a physical relationship 
>> rather than a godly relationship and we know that our Church discourages 
>> us from that.  So, I will cancel out the men that merely seek me out for 
>> physical pleasure.  There was a point in my life when I caved.  I could 
>> have had a man who would have bought me anything in the world, showered 
>> me with anything I wanted.  But his demand for his physical pleasure was 
>> too much.  Fortunately, God called me back to reality.  If I would have 
>> stayed or grew closer to him, I would have been trapped in his cage of 
>> manipulation.  I strayed away from my focus on God.  I cut him out and 
>> went to confession and the priest applauded my courage to step out of it. 
>> A friend once told me that when two people find each other for the 
>> purpose of marriage, they found each other because when they looked at 
>> one another, they saw God and not just the person within.  Relationships 
>> should be created for the greater good of our world and not for our 
>> personal plesure.  I mentioned the other day that one sad reali sadness. 
>> I sometimes blame it on my blindness but the reality is that it could be 
>> a lot of things, my personality, my shyness and not feeling like I can 
>> put myself out there, it could be anything.  So, I sit here each day and 
>> I try to discern. Really, it's not what we want in this world, it's what 
>> God wants for us in this world.  Would if God wants me to be single. 
>> Would if He in his infinite wisdom has been teaching me things all these 
>> years and would if something greater is to come in my singleness.  I try 
>> to put my pain aside each day and pray to our Lord, saying, Lord, what is 
>> it you want of me.  I need to put my wants aside.  Maybe we, Dana are 
>> suppose to be single.  We are doing a lot of great things in our lives. 
>> We should focus on what God wants us to do and not worry about what we 
>> want.  Worrying and longing for what we want only is brining us pain and 
>> disappointment.  And finally for now, I think of my blindness is just a 
>> characteristic and not something that will overtake my life.  If people 
>> do not embrace this characteristic about me as they would height, weight 
>> or hair color, than they are welcome to move on.  God made me the way I 
>> am for a special reason and he embraces me and all of my characteristics.
>>
>> Charlotte ty for me is that I always wanted to get married and have 
>> children.  Well, I have about five to seven years left of the chance of 
>> bearing a child.  I have never seriously dated anyone in my life.  Partly 
>> it's because I'm so picky and partly it's because no man has really 
>> wanted to seriously date me except for the one who wanted only sex.  This 
>> reality has brought me great
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> To: <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I 
>> do
>>
>>
>>> I would add to that only this.  With out mentioning names.  I was in a 
>>> relationship with someone whom I thought had everything I could ever 
>>> desire; uh, or so I thought.  Turned out I was wrong.  That could have 
>>> and does happen to sighted folks as well.  Yes, some sighted men won't 
>>> date a blind lady because they think she needs to be looked after. 
>>> guess what, some sighted women will not date a blind guy for the same 
>>> reasons.  I think, to speak candidly, that perhaps you [Dana] might be 
>>> over-amplifying the blindness aspect of this just a little.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Gary Wunder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dana. Let's move away from blindness a moment and ask how many 
>>>> sighted
>>>> folks find themselves in an equal relationship. I know many women who 
>>>> are
>>>> happy but wish their spouse treated them as a real equal. I know men 
>>>> who
>>>> don't think they are treated equally when it comes to being able to 
>>>> respect
>>>> and articulate emotion or who do not feel they are treated as an equal 
>>>> in
>>>> parenting.
>>>>
>>>> I am certain blindness complicates things in dating, but the fact so 
>>>> many of
>>>> us have managed to find our partner is a testament to the fact it can
>>>> happen. I am a lucky man--my spouse sees what she wants in me and 
>>>> therefore
>>>> overlooks much that makes me less appealing.
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Dana
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 11:01 PM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I 
>>>> do
>>>>
>>>> I honestly get so frustrated from time to time as I have tried every 
>>>> dating
>>>> site I can think of on the internet, paid for them and most often 
>>>> sighted
>>>> guys don't give me one second glance.
>>>> I have a college education and work full time as well which defies a 
>>>> lot of
>>>> the statistics of the employment rate among the blind, and I can't seem 
>>>> to
>>>> either find a  blind person who is as independent as myself or a 
>>>> sighted
>>>> person who doesn't feel that blind people are in need of being taken 
>>>> care
>>>> of.
>>>> I surefire wish there were something we all could do in all honesty to 
>>>> show
>>>> the world that it is not a care taker we need it is an equal partner.
>>>> Dana
>>>>
>>>> Follo me on twitter
>>>> djkitty73
>>>> Windows live messenger ID and face book ID one in the same
>>>> dananolan at comcast.net If you have skype add me
>>>> dana030973
>>>>
>>>>
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