[Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do

[David Andrews]

I thought he "helped those who helped themselves."  Putting matters 
into somebody elses hands, even God, seems to me to be an excuse for 
doing nothing.

Dave

02:09 PM 7/4/2011, you wrote:
>exactly
>Nikki Wunderlich
>face book, my space, and MSN as well as email nikki0222 at gmail.com
>yahoo and AIM nikkiwunderlich
>skype and twitter nikki022285
>cell 763-248-0106
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Fortin" 
><jeanette at fortin-home.com>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do
>
>
>>i'm with you on that, not doing the dating webistes, God will 
>>either bring someone in to my life or not.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki Wunderlich" <nikki0222 at gmail.com>
>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do
>>
>>
>>>I've never went on those dating websites, because my family says 
>>>they're too dangerous, and I don't want to have world war 3 on my 
>>>hands because of doing something like that. I am just either going 
>>>to have to meet the person I date in person some how, or stay single.
>>>Nikki Wunderlich
>>>face book, my space, and MSN as well as email nikki0222 at gmail.com
>>>yahoo and AIM nikkiwunderlich
>>>skype and twitter nikki022285
>>>cell 763-248-0106
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Kostiw" 
>>><jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
>>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 2:05 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dana,
>>>>First, like everyone has said, your X-husband sounds like a complete dirt
>>>>bag!  You and I have sort of crossed paths over the years, and from what I
>>>>recall it sounds like you are better off without him.
>>>>As far as the dating cites are concerned, after reading your post one
>>>>question jumps out in my mind.  In your profiles, do you state right out
>>>>that you are blind?  If so, how much of a focus is it?  The 
>>>>stereo types you
>>>>stated are unfortunately true, but I do not think they are as across the
>>>>board as you may think.  A little over a year and a half ago I met my
>>>>boyfriend Jon on Match.com.  At the time I distinctly recall toying with
>>>>whether or not to state anything on the page about my blindness.  My family
>>>>said I should, after all I could immediately weed out the 
>>>>jerks.  Since many
>>>>people do prejudge, I elected not to.  I am not blind Jessica, I am Jessica
>>>>who happeneds to be blind.  To weed out jerks, I instead mentioned my being
>>>>a Christian and the church I belonged to.  The majority of my profile
>>>>focused on my interest in physical fitness, reading, and such.  With dating
>>>>sites you talk and email to a number of different people.  I wasn't on the
>>>>site to educate everyone and their brother on blindness.  Threw the
>>>>conversations and interaction I was able to weed out the guys that I really
>>>>didn't see any chemistry with.  I didn't tell all of them I was blind until
>>>>we developed a rapport.  By the time I did tell them, I had somewhat of an
>>>>idea of their character.  With Jon specifically, I remember 
>>>>slipping in that
>>>>the Labrador picture in my profile was actually my former guide dog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As I write, Jon is waiting for me to help him with some weeding, so I have
>>>>to wrap this up.  I have a lot to say on this issue though, and would be
>>>>happy to talk to you in more detail.  There are a few points that I would
>>>>like to make though before I close.  First, with all do respect, I am
>>>>wondering if the frustration and defeat that you expressed in your message
>>>>is also coming through in your dating interaction.  I joined match because
>>>>at the time I was working in a cubicle in an office with all 
>>>>married people.
>>>>(It is not a good idea to date people at work anyway.)  I went into it with
>>>>the attitude of possibly meeting someone to date, but also just 
>>>>to meet some
>>>>nice people and see where things go.  If nothing happened, I 
>>>>would have some
>>>>funny stories to tell friends.  I was on Match for two months 
>>>>when I started
>>>>talking to Jon.  Today, we are happier than ever.  We are an active regular
>>>>couple.  When I told him I was blind, he really didn't care.  It was like
>>>>"Okay, tell me if I offend you or you need anything....  let's go 
>>>>kayaking."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In closing, as the commercial states, one in every five couples today meets
>>>>on line.  Of course you have to be safe, but if you go in with decent
>>>>expectations how is it any different than walking into a bar and meeting
>>>>someone?  Just meet in a public place the first time you do meet 
>>>>and be sure
>>>>to have an escape route if the person is not who you thought.
>>>>
>>>>Happy Dating!
>>>>Jessica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>Behalf Of Dana
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:01 AM
>>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I do
>>>>
>>>>I honestly get so frustrated from time to time as I have tried every dating
>>>>site I can think of on the internet, paid for them and most often sighted
>>>>guys don't give me one second glance.
>>>>I have a college education and work full time as well which defies a lot of
>>>>the statistics of the employment rate among the blind, and I can't seem to
>>>>either find a  blind person who is as independent as myself or a sighted
>>>>person who doesn't feel that blind people are in need of being taken care
>>>>of.
>>>>I surefire wish there were something we all could do in all honesty to show
>>>>the world that it is not a care taker we need it is an equal partner.
>>>>Dana
>>>>
>>>>Follo me on twitter
>>>>djkitty73
>>>>Windows live messenger ID and face book ID one in the same
>>>>dananolan at comcast.net
>>>>If you have skype add me
>>>>dana030973