[Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do

Mon Jul 4 23:05:06 UTC 2011

In my opinion, if God wants two people to meet, it will happen, but
that doesn't mean just sitting around and waiting for something to
fall into your lap. You could fall into that trap in so many
situations. You could even take it to such an extreme that you could
sit in your house wasting away for all your life because you believe
that someday a cure will come for your blindness in the form of some
divine intervention. So while I don't have anything against anyone's
religious beliefs, I do believe that in order to make something
happen, you have to get the ball rolling on your own terms. The rest
will follow.

On 7/4/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly, David. I agree with this.
> I don't  want to be really religious here or change the subject matter to an
> off-topic state, but, this brings me to a story that tries to tell just
> exactly what you've said in your "I thought he helped those who helped
> themselves" statement:
>
>      one man was cruising on a boat by himself across the ocean. Suddenly,
> the boat crashes and sinks, living nothing but the man sinking there by
> himself. His only hope is that God is going to save his life and god would
> be the only one to save him because he was alone in the ocean trying to
> float alive. One larger ship approaches him and the people on the ship asked
> him, "do you need help? Come on, we can save you, just hop on." The man's
> response was, "No, god is going to save me."
> Later on, the man was still sinking in the water and despite all the waves
> that were coming still he was thinking that god will save him. Suddenly
> another ship bigger than the first one stages up to the lonely man and the
> captain asks him: "come on! We'll save you! Just jump in!" but then the
> man's response was once again, "No, No, god will save me, don't worry god
> will save me."
> The ship went away, and the man was to the point of dying, when he keeps
> thinking "god, please, save me. Why don't you do it now."
> So another boat--probably the size of his--came to him, the person on the
> boat asks him "come in, I'll save you." But the man kept responding, "No,
> no, god is going to save me, god is the only one that is going to save me,
> don't worry."
> The boat hurried away, and minutes later the man couldn't resist no more and
> died.
> When the man was with god in heaven, he asked him: "god, why didn't you save
> me? I thought you were going to save me." then god's response was, "Hey, I
> sent you three boats, but you did not get on either one of them. Sorry."
>
> --Source: MY MOM SHARED THIS STORY WITH ME.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of David Andrews
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:37 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I do
>
> I thought he "helped those who helped themselves."  Putting matters
> into somebody elses hands, even God, seems to me to be an excuse for
> doing nothing.
>
> Dave
>
> 02:09 PM 7/4/2011, you wrote:
>>exactly
>>Nikki Wunderlich
>>face book, my space, and MSN as well as email nikki0222 at gmail.com
>>yahoo and AIM nikkiwunderlich
>>skype and twitter nikki022285
>>cell 763-248-0106
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Fortin"
>><jeanette at fortin-home.com>
>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I
> do
>>
>>
>>>i'm with you on that, not doing the dating webistes, God will
>>>either bring someone in to my life or not.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki Wunderlich"
> <nikki0222 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:45 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I
> do
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've never went on those dating websites, because my family says
>>>>they're too dangerous, and I don't want to have world war 3 on my
>>>>hands because of doing something like that. I am just either going
>>>>to have to meet the person I date in person some how, or stay single.
>>>>Nikki Wunderlich
>>>>face book, my space, and MSN as well as email nikki0222 at gmail.com
>>>>yahoo and AIM nikkiwunderlich
>>>>skype and twitter nikki022285
>>>>cell 763-248-0106
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Kostiw"
>>>><jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 2:05 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone less who is blind feels like I
> do
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dana,
>>>>>First, like everyone has said, your X-husband sounds like a complete
> dirt
>>>>>bag!  You and I have sort of crossed paths over the years, and from what
> I
>>>>>recall it sounds like you are better off without him.
>>>>>As far as the dating cites are concerned, after reading your post one
>>>>>question jumps out in my mind.  In your profiles, do you state right out
>>>>>that you are blind?  If so, how much of a focus is it?  The
>>>>>stereo types you
>>>>>stated are unfortunately true, but I do not think they are as across the
>>>>>board as you may think.  A little over a year and a half ago I met my
>>>>>boyfriend Jon on Match.com.  At the time I distinctly recall toying with
>>>>>whether or not to state anything on the page about my blindness.  My
> family
>>>>>said I should, after all I could immediately weed out the
>>>>>jerks.  Since many
>>>>>people do prejudge, I elected not to.  I am not blind Jessica, I am
> Jessica
>>>>>who happeneds to be blind.  To weed out jerks, I instead mentioned my
> being
>>>>>a Christian and the church I belonged to.  The majority of my profile
>>>>>focused on my interest in physical fitness, reading, and such.  With
> dating
>>>>>sites you talk and email to a number of different people.  I wasn't on
> the
>>>>>site to educate everyone and their brother on blindness.  Threw the
>>>>>conversations and interaction I was able to weed out the guys that I
> really
>>>>>didn't see any chemistry with.  I didn't tell all of them I was blind
> until
>>>>>we developed a rapport.  By the time I did tell them, I had somewhat of
> an
>>>>>idea of their character.  With Jon specifically, I remember
>>>>>slipping in that
>>>>>the Labrador picture in my profile was actually my former guide dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As I write, Jon is waiting for me to help him with some weeding, so I
> have
>>>>>to wrap this up.  I have a lot to say on this issue though, and would be
>>>>>happy to talk to you in more detail.  There are a few points that I
> would
>>>>>like to make though before I close.  First, with all do respect, I am
>>>>>wondering if the frustration and defeat that you expressed in your
> message
>>>>>is also coming through in your dating interaction.  I joined match
> because
>>>>>at the time I was working in a cubicle in an office with all
>>>>>married people.
>>>>>(It is not a good idea to date people at work anyway.)  I went into it
> with
>>>>>the attitude of possibly meeting someone to date, but also just
>>>>>to meet some
>>>>>nice people and see where things go.  If nothing happened, I
>>>>>would have some
>>>>>funny stories to tell friends.  I was on Match for two months
>>>>>when I started
>>>>>talking to Jon.  Today, we are happier than ever.  We are an active
> regular
>>>>>couple.  When I told him I was blind, he really didn't care.  It was
> like
>>>>>"Okay, tell me if I offend you or you need anything....  let's go
>>>>>kayaking."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In closing, as the commercial states, one in every five couples today
> meets
>>>>>on line.  Of course you have to be safe, but if you go in with decent
>>>>>expectations how is it any different than walking into a bar and meeting
>>>>>someone?  Just meet in a public place the first time you do meet
>>>>>and be sure
>>>>>to have an escape route if the person is not who you thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>Happy Dating!
>>>>>Jessica
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>>>>>Behalf Of Dana
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:01 AM
>>>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: [Blindtlk] I wonder if anyone elss who is blind feels like I do
>>>>>
>>>>>I honestly get so frustrated from time to time as I have tried every
> dating
>>>>>site I can think of on the internet, paid for them and most often
> sighted
>>>>>guys don't give me one second glance.
>>>>>I have a college education and work full time as well which defies a lot
> of
>>>>>the statistics of the employment rate among the blind, and I can't seem
> to
>>>>>either find a  blind person who is as independent as myself or a sighted
>>>>>person who doesn't feel that blind people are in need of being taken
> care
>>>>>of.
>>>>>I surefire wish there were something we all could do in all honesty to
> show
>>>>>the world that it is not a care taker we need it is an equal partner.
>>>>>Dana
>>>>>
>>>>>Follo me on twitter
>>>>>djkitty73
>>>>>Windows live messenger ID and face book ID one in the same
>>>>>dananolan at comcast.net
>>>>>If you have skype add me
>>>>>dana030973
>
>
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