[Blindtlk] Florida Council of the Blind Chapter developmentandFlorida Council of the blind students organization development

[Chris Nusbaum]

I choose the ladder!!! Dr.  tenBroek's principles of achieving 
"security, equality, and opportunity" for the blind won't be 
achieved by sitting around and not fixing the problems we face.

 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net
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Date sent: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:26:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Florida Council of the Blind Chapter 
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Dear Diane and All,i

I think that the problem with most Blind people being apathetic,
non-commital and "don't want to do nothing" is like the old story 
about the
traveling salesman who comes to a old house in the country where 
and old man
is sitting in a rocking chair with his old hound dog laying on 
the porch
moaning and wiggling in his sleep.
The salesman asked the old man, "What's wrong with your dog?"
The old Man replies," He is laying on a nail."
The salesman asks, " Why doesn't he just move off the nail?" and 
the old man
replies, " I guess it don't hurt him bad enough yet."

The story kind of illustrates just how allot of Blind people are, 
and I
think that we see this in the general population as well.  We can 
move into
a comfort zone and feel that we do not need to do anything, or  
stay  in an
uncomfortable position and suffer quietly doing nothing to 
improve our
situation, or we can get up and fix the problem by taking action 
and
removing that darn nail.
I guess we all need to learn how to carry a hammer around with us 
and to
know when and how to use it to fix what needs fixing.

David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
MV Transit Consumer Advocate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Florida Council of the Blind Chapter 
development
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 Hi Joseph,

 I would agree with this.  I think some--not all, but most--of 
these
 individuals who don't think that the problems are real have 
family members
 who are either willing to jump in and read/transport/whatever, 
or they
 have friends in high places who can get them past the 
discrimination.
 Or...  they have the money they need to bypass the system.

 Unfortunately, like it or not, as proven by some of the antics 
in
 Hollywood over the last several years, people who have the 
money, can
 pretty much do whatever they want too.  But yes, I would agree, 
most of the
 blind who think everything is okay probably aren't as 
independent as they
 could and should be.

 Diane Graves
 Civil Rights Specialist
 Indiana Civil Rights Commission
 Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
 317-232-2647

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 Diane,

 I’ll opine that if they have been so sheltered, they HAVE in 
fact
 experienced the discrimination and belittlement.  They are just
 blissfully unaware of this fact.  For this, and not for their
 disability, I pity them.

 Joseph


 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:34:01AM -0400, Graves, Diane wrote:
Joseph,

What you say is very true.  There are also those blind 
individuals who are
reluctant to get involved, because they haven't experienced any 
conflicts.
They are blessed to have breezed through life, have had great 
teachers and
educational systems, being well received by others, the things 
that they
care about have been accessible to them, they have experienced no
belittlement or discrimination, and on and on.  They just don't 
think there
is really a problem, because they, themselves, haven't dealt with 
it.  Do
you know what I mean?



Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647

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