[Blindtlk] owning a vehicle

Sun Mar 11 12:55:46 UTC 2012

David,

Sorry I didn't mean to take my frustration out on you.  I agree with the 
idea of preventing people with ill intent or here illegally from owning 
a car.  I don't think  this law will actually accomplish that though.

I have several friends who were still driving with valid driver's 
licenses while they were blind.  It kind of scares me.  Although the 14 
year old kids who drive give me the shivers.

Anyhow I was able to purchase the car.  Kiddo loves it.   I think it 
will hold up through college if he takes care of it.  I guess if I am 
ever financially able to buy a car for myself and hire a driver I'll 
figure out what to do about the driver's license issue then.  If anyone 
does know more about it though, I'd love to know.

Julie

On 3/10/2012 8:41 PM, David Evans wrote:
>
> DearJulie,
>
> I am not saying that I agree with the law, if ther is such a law.  I 
> am just saying that it is likely part of the new steps taken by 
> Homeland Security to make it harder for terrist to get vehilcles and I 
> suspect that it is also harder for illegal aliens to get one too.
> If you are not documented, it will be very hard to buy a car or many 
> other things.
> I am just explaining juat I think is happenining.
> I too think that you should be able to own a car, even if you can not 
> drive one.  I have owned many cars and even have a 1965 Crysler 300 
> sitting in my back yard waiting to be restored.
> The truth is. I have been blind since I was 16 years old, but got my 
> first driver's license when I was 18 ,(Jan. 1965 and drove for 20.9 
> years, till Oct 1985), when I stopped on my own when I felt unsafe. to 
> continue.
> I learned how to cheat and get around the eye test and got licenses 
> first in Florida, then California and then in Florida again.
> I have 3 letters from those states complimenting me on my "clean 
> driving " record
> and I use to show, my still valid drivers license to my County 
> Commissioners, I renewed by mail, when I would advocate for better 
> Public Transportation at Commission meetings.
> We finally got the funding and have a very good transit system today 
> in Palm Beach County Florida.  I even work for it now too.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>
>
>> So, ummm, is the thinking that terrorists don't have driver's 
>> licenses? And if your that bent on blowing up stuff, I doubt the 
>> problem of following legal procedures for purchasing a vehicle  is 
>> going to keep you up at night.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to think.  On the one hand I would honestly like 
>> the option of having my own vehicle and hiring drivers if I ever 
>> become financially able to do that.  On the other hand I understand 
>> the need to keep people with criminal intent from doing things they 
>> shouldn't.  I'm not sure where the line is though.  When does crime 
>> prevention cross the line into infringing on others rights.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/2012 7:00 PM, David Evans wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> This has to do with changes in Homeland Security, to make it harder 
>>> for terrist to buy vehicles, such as trucks or vans, to fill with 
>>> explosives and things.
>>> We have seen changes in the regulations for getting State I.D. cards 
>>> and Driver's Licenses too.
>>> You have to bring birth certificates, passports, proof of 
>>> residencies and other things to get a new I.D. card and you need 
>>> them to fly on a plane.
>>> For decades, In Japan, you have had to show a deed to a piece of 
>>> property, 8 feet by 25 feet in which to park your car, before you 
>>> were allowed to buy one and drive off the lot.
>>> Only about 19% of the People in Japan even own a car or drive 
>>> because it is very expensive to own or operate one there.
>>> Gas is over $4.50 a liter.  That is just a quart, not a gallon.
>>> You have to pay a toll every few miles every where you go and 
>>> parking is very expensive.
>>> That is why Public Transportation is so good there and everyone uses 
>>> it.
>>> Traffic laws and those that cover ownership of cars, is mostly 
>>> governed by the States.  There are few federal laws except for the 
>>> safety regulations that cars must meet here in the States.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>> Former driver and multiple car owner.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wunder" 
>>> <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>> If true, we should modify the law.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:28 PM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>>>>
>>>> Heya all!
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about federal laws that have 
>>>> changed
>>>> in the past year or so regarding having to have a drivers license to
>>>> purchase a vehicle?
>>>>
>>>> I just bought a car for my son, who is not quite old enough to 
>>>> drive yet.
>>>> I've been looking for a car for him for a few months because the 
>>>> sort of car
>>>> we wanted is hard to come by and sells within a couple of days when 
>>>> they are
>>>> available.  I didn't want to pass up a good car at a good price so 
>>>> I bought
>>>> it a bit before he will actually be able to drive
>>>> it.   Anyway I was told that I cannot purchase a vehicle without a
>>>> driver's license.   If I understood correctly I can have the title 
>>>> in my
>>>> name only, but the bill of sale requires a drivers license number 
>>>> or they
>>>> can't sell you the car.  This was claimed to be a federal law that 
>>>> went into
>>>> effect January  of 2011.  My husband who has a drivers license was 
>>>> there and
>>>> I used that so I could purchase the car, but I'm still a bit 
>>>> irritated by
>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>
>>>> What do you all think?
>>>> Julie
>>>>
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