[Blindtlk] owning a vehicle

David Evans drevans at bellsouth.net
Sun Mar 11 18:38:10 UTC 2012 

Dear Julie,

No offense taken and I agree with you.
I see no reason why, I as a Blind person can not own a car.  I know several 
people, especially seniors living here in Florida, who keep their cars , 
like some sort of security blanket, and let other people use it to drive 
them around or for relatives to use when they come to visit.
I know many who should not be driving anymore, but use their cars to drive 
to the mall or to food shop or go to the doctor.
They scare the hell out of me and i have been struck twice, out of three 
times, by seniors.
I have been lucky not to be seriously hurt.
I live just one mile from Century Village, a retirement community with about 
15,000 residents.
I hear the fire trucks and ambulances going past my house to the Village all 
of the time.
A lady friend of my mother in law, once put her car over the curb, through a 
fence and into the deep end of one of the community pools.  That made some 
picture on the news.
Here in Florida, a state issued, Non-Drivers License I.D. card must be 
accepted the same as a regular driver's license in all financial 
transactions.
We use to have a few banks that would not accept our I.D. card to cash a 
check and we complained.

David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle


> David,
>
> Sorry I didn't mean to take my frustration out on you.  I agree with the 
> idea of preventing people with ill intent or here illegally from owning a 
> car.  I don't think  this law will actually accomplish that though.
>
> I have several friends who were still driving with valid driver's licenses 
> while they were blind.  It kind of scares me.  Although the 14 year old 
> kids who drive give me the shivers.
>
> Anyhow I was able to purchase the car.  Kiddo loves it.   I think it will 
> hold up through college if he takes care of it.  I guess if I am ever 
> financially able to buy a car for myself and hire a driver I'll figure out 
> what to do about the driver's license issue then.  If anyone does know 
> more about it though, I'd love to know.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 3/10/2012 8:41 PM, David Evans wrote:
>>
>> DearJulie,
>>
>> I am not saying that I agree with the law, if ther is such a law.  I am 
>> just saying that it is likely part of the new steps taken by Homeland 
>> Security to make it harder for terrist to get vehilcles and I suspect 
>> that it is also harder for illegal aliens to get one too.
>> If you are not documented, it will be very hard to buy a car or many 
>> other things.
>> I am just explaining juat I think is happenining.
>> I too think that you should be able to own a car, even if you can not 
>> drive one.  I have owned many cars and even have a 1965 Crysler 300 
>> sitting in my back yard waiting to be restored.
>> The truth is. I have been blind since I was 16 years old, but got my 
>> first driver's license when I was 18 ,(Jan. 1965 and drove for 20.9 
>> years, till Oct 1985), when I stopped on my own when I felt unsafe. to 
>> continue.
>> I learned how to cheat and get around the eye test and got licenses first 
>> in Florida, then California and then in Florida again.
>> I have 3 letters from those states complimenting me on my "clean driving 
>> " record
>> and I use to show, my still valid drivers license to my County 
>> Commissioners, I renewed by mail, when I would advocate for better Public 
>> Transportation at Commission meetings.
>> We finally got the funding and have a very good transit system today in 
>> Palm Beach County Florida.  I even work for it now too.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>>
>>
>>> So, ummm, is the thinking that terrorists don't have driver's licenses? 
>>> And if your that bent on blowing up stuff, I doubt the problem of 
>>> following legal procedures for purchasing a vehicle  is going to keep 
>>> you up at night.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what to think.  On the one hand I would honestly like the 
>>> option of having my own vehicle and hiring drivers if I ever become 
>>> financially able to do that.  On the other hand I understand the need to 
>>> keep people with criminal intent from doing things they shouldn't.  I'm 
>>> not sure where the line is though.  When does crime prevention cross the 
>>> line into infringing on others rights.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2012 7:00 PM, David Evans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> This has to do with changes in Homeland Security, to make it harder for 
>>>> terrist to buy vehicles, such as trucks or vans, to fill with 
>>>> explosives and things.
>>>> We have seen changes in the regulations for getting State I.D. cards 
>>>> and Driver's Licenses too.
>>>> You have to bring birth certificates, passports, proof of residencies 
>>>> and other things to get a new I.D. card and you need them to fly on a 
>>>> plane.
>>>> For decades, In Japan, you have had to show a deed to a piece of 
>>>> property, 8 feet by 25 feet in which to park your car, before you were 
>>>> allowed to buy one and drive off the lot.
>>>> Only about 19% of the People in Japan even own a car or drive because 
>>>> it is very expensive to own or operate one there.
>>>> Gas is over $4.50 a liter.  That is just a quart, not a gallon.
>>>> You have to pay a toll every few miles every where you go and parking 
>>>> is very expensive.
>>>> That is why Public Transportation is so good there and everyone uses 
>>>> it.
>>>> Traffic laws and those that cover ownership of cars, is mostly governed 
>>>> by the States.  There are few federal laws except for the safety 
>>>> regulations that cars must meet here in the States.
>>>>
>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>> Former driver and multiple car owner.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wunder" 
>>>> <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If true, we should modify the law.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:28 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] owning a vehicle
>>>>>
>>>>> Heya all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about federal laws that have 
>>>>> changed
>>>>> in the past year or so regarding having to have a drivers license to
>>>>> purchase a vehicle?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just bought a car for my son, who is not quite old enough to drive 
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> I've been looking for a car for him for a few months because the sort 
>>>>> of car
>>>>> we wanted is hard to come by and sells within a couple of days when 
>>>>> they are
>>>>> available.  I didn't want to pass up a good car at a good price so I 
>>>>> bought
>>>>> it a bit before he will actually be able to drive
>>>>> it.   Anyway I was told that I cannot purchase a vehicle without a
>>>>> driver's license.   If I understood correctly I can have the title in 
>>>>> my
>>>>> name only, but the bill of sale requires a drivers license number or 
>>>>> they
>>>>> can't sell you the car.  This was claimed to be a federal law that 
>>>>> went into
>>>>> effect January  of 2011.  My husband who has a drivers license was 
>>>>> there and
>>>>> I used that so I could purchase the car, but I'm still a bit irritated 
>>>>> by
>>>>> the whole thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
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