[Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who are blind.

Sun Feb 3 23:22:31 UTC 2013

Yes, this book is also out now on the BARD site.

The best read ever.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who 
are blind.

>I would recommend that you read the book by Dr Jernigan walking alone 
>marching together.
>
> ACB was a break off from the NFB in the late 60s early 70s. I wasn't with 
> the NFB then.
>
> There was in fighting and the ACB was formed.
>
> The older generations keep influencing the younger about issue
>
> Example HR 3086 was announced at there convention in 2012 but they didn't 
> pass the resolution it because there national president said it is an NFB 
> issue and not there's.
>
>
>
> Judy Jones <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>
> This is a very good question.  In my experience, the NFB is more 
> proactive.
> My understanding, too, is that the ACB is more of a social organization,
> leaving main decisions to their board members rather than the membership.
> In some states both organizations work amicably together, but am not sure 
> if
> this is true in all states.  In our state of Idaho, the NFB is 
> predominant.
>
> Anyone on list, please correct my perceptions if necessary.
>
> Year ago, the reason my choice was for the NFB is that I saw independent
> proactive people, was impressed with the literature and leadership.  When 
> I
> learned of the rich history of blind people as a minority, I realized how
> much I'd taken for granted, and want to give back what I can to the
> organization in any way I can.
>
> Judy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo" <happychikao at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who 
> are
> blind.
>
>
>> hello whut is the drifence of nfb (and acb)i am a member of nfb &i
>> love it i wont to bee a memberrof a c b. but is it o k?
>>
>> On 1/31/13, Judy Jones <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>>> Hi, Julie,
>>>
>>> It sounds like you used the CCTV the way an Optacon user uses the
>>> Optacon.
>>> That makes total sense to me.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids 
>>> who
>>> are blind.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am one of those people with pretty low vision who uses a CCTV.  I also
>>>>use JAWS, Voice Over and Braille.  which option I choose for the moment
>>>>depends a lot on what I need to get done. There are simply some things
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>are more easily accomplished using the CCTV, looking at graphs, filling
>>>>out
>>>>
>>>>a simple form not immediately available electronically, reading a
>>>>handwritten note, looking at complex tables and other things with 
>>>>spatial
>>>>relationships.
>>>>
>>>> I do wonder if the young lady on the program had a toolbox of options 
>>>> or
>>>> if she was stuck using the CCTV for everything because she did have 
>>>> some
>>>> vision.  I think there needs to be balance, options and the best use of
>>>> the right tool for the job.
>>>>
>>>> Taking each file out of the filing cabinet to read it's label on the
>>>> CCTV
>>>>
>>>> would be incredibly cumbersome, Braille works better.  Reading a
>>>> handwritten police ticket at work is best accomplished with the CCTV.
>>>> Writing client reports works best with JAWS.  And when I do classroom
>>>> presentations I use my i Pad with Voice Over, an old Braille Note or
>>>> sometimes hard copy Braille, depending on which I feel will work best.
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> do carry a portable magnifier with me though because sometimes I need 
>>>> to
>>>> access printed stuff on the fly and that is the easiest way for me to 
>>>> do
>>>> it.  I can't imagine trying to get all of this done with only one tool.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I understand that there are non visual ways of doing these
>>>> tasks
>>>>
>>>> and I'm not disputing the usefulness or effectiveness of those means.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> just saying that for me sometimes using the CCTV works.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> 1love keep us together. Chikodinaka &Happyness's old theem song. our
>> new theem song is no one bee like you used on 12-24-2011. ObianujuIf i
>> had my way i will change my wife's mittle name2Obianuju! if you try
>> you will seg-seed. try try try agan. for if you persevear. you will
>> konker never fear. try try try agan.
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