[Blindtlk] Off Topic - Accessible places on the net for LGBTQindividuals?

Thu Feb 21 01:57:17 UTC 2013

I totally agree, Diane.  Obviously if you are sighted, looks are going to be 
a major part of that important first impression.  But those of us who are 
totally or close to totally blind will eventually get a sense of the other 
person's body type, and a whole host of other things that make up 
attraction.  For me, for example, I am heterosexual and one very important 
thing for me to consider is the woman's voice.  I happen to like women with 
alto type voices, and I always have, for some reason.  Another issue that is 
very important for me, once I get to know the person, is their politics.  It 
is not the most important thing, but it is there, and I find it necessary to 
pay attention to it.  All this to say that heterosexual blind people, and I 
would imagine gay and lesbian blind people, have no problem determining what 
they like in a potential partner.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Diane Graves
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:33 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Off Topic - Accessible places on the net for 
LGBTQindividuals?

Hi Ari, Peter, and All,

Let me first emphasize the fact that I am not gay, so perhaps I have no
right to speak here. However, I really wouldn't think that recognizing this
attraction as a totally blind person would be any different whether you are
gay or straight.

Those of us who are totally blind and heterosexual, know what we like and
know what we don't. We go by voices, the companionship we prefer, things we
have in common, and a number of other factors. Even being totally blind, we
have body types that we prefer, and once you get to know a person you
typically get a general idea of their body type. Are they tall, are they
short, overweight or thin, muscular or slight, long hair or short,  etc.

For example, I am a totally blind white woman who, for as far back as I can
remember, has always preferred or gravitated toward black men. I have always
been attracted to the voices, by the confident way that they carry and
present themselves, and a number of other characteristics. I also think that
I have always felt a kin to the African American race because I, myself,
have experienced blatant discrimination.

I don't think any of these factors would be different if you were totally
blind and gay. You really don't need sight to determine what you like/want.

Diane Graves
most anything that

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wolfe
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:48 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Off Topic - Accessible places on the net for LGBTQ
individuals?

Ari,

    After a few replies on list, it appears that much of the challenges are
innergenerational like racism of the past. An older fella said that his
father hated either gays or blacks, so he was probably double wammed with
dating a guy of color and being gay himself. There are still inclusion
issues in the gay community as a whole towards the blind and much of the
other disability community for that matter that I'd attest to as well. This
is no different than for being blind of any group just that gay men and
women open up more readily than the normal population even though some are
steadfast into preferences like race, etc. Lastly, much of what you face
presumedly being hetrosexual is about the same as if you would be whether
you were in or outside of the closet now! BTW: I'm not fully out in public
though.

hugs,
Peter a.k.a Emily sometimes

On 2/20/13, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ari,
>
>
>     Thanks for the online resource cause you can never have too many
> right? Well, I cannot fully answer your question because I wasn't born
> blind nor have ever had a blind partner before. HOwever, if you didn't
> midnd that I quoted your material with keeping your name anonymous on
> the Yahoo Gay e-mail list for which I'm already a member on their
> impressions of your question. Unless your a closeted gay you wouldn't
> mind and you probably aren't so it doesn't matter nyhow. I'll report
> to you on this same thread as the results pore in.
>
>
> hope this helps,
> Peter
>
> On 2/20/13, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>> There's also a group called Queerability, just search on Google. I
>> also know of a mailing list for blind LGBT people.
>> You join by sending an email to
>> blind-gay-subscribe at yahoogroups.com
>> I just have a question, its just something I'm curious about.
>> I have known blind LGBT people, but many of them had their sight when
>> they realised their sexual orientation, that they were attracted to
>> the same sex.
>> I'm curious to know, how do totally blind people who are born gay
>> realise it and then start adjusting, is it much more of a difficult
>> process to go through than a sighted person goes through?
>> Thanks
>> Ari
>>
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> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
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> Peter Q Wolfe
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e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
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Peter Q Wolfe
"Stand up for your rights"
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