[Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

[David Andrews]

Peter, you need to decide what it is that you want to do, then figure 
out how a blind guy can do it.  You are approaching it from -- 
what  job can a blind guy do and what jobs do you have from a blind 
guy.  If you get something you probably won't be happy because it 
wasn't what you want to do.

Dave

At 09:12 AM 3/21/2013, you wrote:
>Ray and others,
>
>
>     Thank you for replying to my message on this issue. The problem
>Ray is that I don't have any idea of what I'll be doing with a
>bachelors of arts in political science with the federal government.
>sure I know of what a poli sci professional does just not what I can
>do being blind and all is able to do at work. I've been to the NFB
>subdomains and profesional bios and AFB's Mentor connect and talked to
>political scientists who are blind just not at my level of under
>graduate experience. Some are either devoid of under graduate
>experience with graduate work experience or just of another time or
>place or finally transfered to other skill sets entirely into my
>field. I guess this work experience could shine some light on what I
>could do with my degree just seems kind of bleak at this point. Any
>ideas from you guys would be really cool!
>
>
>Thanks Ray and all,
>Peter
>p.s: I own a I-Phone 4s and might transfer personally to Apple just
>for work its pc
>
>On 3/21/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> > You are way over thinking the issue here.  Like Dave and other people have
> > said, you can think it to death and never really find a 
> solution.  Here's my
> > advice.  Stop it.  then, ask yourself what you most want or need 
> to do.  You
> > will find this narrows it down pretty fast.  Now, once you have that, find
> > out what tools will best meet your needs.  For some, it's windows-for
> > others, like me, it's the Mac.  For still others, neither will 
> do.  You will
> > never find fully comprehenceive tutorials for everything all laid out for
> > you in one place.  At least, I don't think so.  Forget being spoon-fed
> > everything.  It ain't gonna happen.  So, take the advice I gave 
> you to start
> > with above and see where that takes you.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> > built-in!
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> > On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear NFB Talk Members,
> >>
> >>
> >>    Would I be better off to better familarize myself with my existing
> >> screen reader Window-Eyes or learn what is necessary for entry level
> >> for federal liberal arts career track e.g. Jaws instead? I'm always
> >> puzzling on tutorials of my former screen reader cause they are
> >> partial or completely devoid of adaquate detail examples to
> >> professions with endorsements or whatever for proper context. I know
> >> that Internal Revenue Service or Social Security like the Department
> >> of Defense use the CAP office that usually recommends Jaws screen
> >> reader so logic says to go with it instead of existing technology.
> >> Maybe I should just focus purely on Jaws from scratch on their
> >> tutorials at a state rehabilitation center or individually, then focus
> >> on existing screen reader Window-Eyes or what would you recommend in
> >> this situation?
> >>
> >>
> >>    I know this sounds like I'm over thinking the situation just that
> >> I've been dealing with this for years on this problem. I swerar one of
> >> the things that I hate being blind is that too much emphasis is on
> >> what assistive technology can do not what can't do. I'd prefer a
> >> comprehensive report or tutorial on all the things sighted individuals
> >> can do and what we can't being blind. Simple as a former sighted
> >> person that I'd appreciate this view much more than this muddy waters
> >> approach that just confuses the daylights out of everything for me. I
> >> also tire of the Federations dream-like imagination that blind folks
> >> can do everything cause simply this isn't true like in programming
> >> that isn't true anymore than they cannot do anything.
> >>
> >>
> >>    Thanks for any and all advice on this subject cause I'm thoroughly
> >> confused on what to do. I tire so much just want to quit cause of
> >> being discouraged on the list in some ways. Your approaches of
> >> encouragement aren't what I'm accustomed to on my fragile self-esteem
> >> cause that is something blind people like me are in low supply of at
> >> the moment. I'm schedule for a three month job in a few months in town
> >> for temporary work experience so just want a job. I just don't know
> >> how best to go about it that is it. Since how I wasn't born blind that
> >> my patience is much more thinner in this technical jargon or way of
> >> thinking than you are accustomed to being blind your whole life or
> >> whatever. Thank you for understanding how I feel and coming from my
> >> prospective on this subject.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Peter Q wolfe, BA