[Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

Sat Mar 23 04:56:14 UTC 2013

hi,

oh man, you opened another can of worms there.
you may have been better off to spew a five minute string of swear words 
instead of mentioning medical research.
Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Wolfe" <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

> David,
>
>
>    The irony David is thtat I picked poli sci cause of the job
> security with the federal government for disabled workers. I truly
> wanted to be a computer scientist but since how that I didn't know
> nemeth code that I didn't pursue that field. I keep telling myself
> with the University of Miami NEI research that perhaps within five or
> more years that my vision could return, then I can pursue a field in
> the STEM fields. I personally hate the social sciences cause there is
> no real benchmarks so everyone disagrees on opinions not facts as
> much. So, I'm stuck with this degree like lots of normal students
> cause wanting job security not cause that I'd like it. Lastly, I'm not
> the best communicater just that I have a passion for counseling and
> for the time being that would be nice to do.
>
>
>    Anyone have any ideas on a poli sci doing counseling in the
> government? I'm thinking of financial aid advisor at a college or
> something. Perhaps I can do this cause the chief financial advisor at
> my university had a ph.d in historyr and theology degree not finance
> at all. I really would like to work with a domestic battery shelter,
> child abuse victims or financial management. I'd appreciate any ideas
> cause not sure of a general scope of what to do. Thanks for pointing
> out the obvious cause that is causing barriers in how to think aboutt
> professional life post-college. By the way, wish that more blind
> people would do more internships in their sophomore, junior and senior
> years cause this more than academics helps more than academics by far.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> On 3/22/13, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> Peter, you need to decide what it is that you want to do, then figure
>> out how a blind guy can do it.  You are approaching it from --
>> what  job can a blind guy do and what jobs do you have from a blind
>> guy.  If you get something you probably won't be happy because it
>> wasn't what you want to do.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 09:12 AM 3/21/2013, you wrote:
>>>Ray and others,
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thank you for replying to my message on this issue. The problem
>>>Ray is that I don't have any idea of what I'll be doing with a
>>>bachelors of arts in political science with the federal government.
>>>sure I know of what a poli sci professional does just not what I can
>>>do being blind and all is able to do at work. I've been to the NFB
>>>subdomains and profesional bios and AFB's Mentor connect and talked to
>>>political scientists who are blind just not at my level of under
>>>graduate experience. Some are either devoid of under graduate
>>>experience with graduate work experience or just of another time or
>>>place or finally transfered to other skill sets entirely into my
>>>field. I guess this work experience could shine some light on what I
>>>could do with my degree just seems kind of bleak at this point. Any
>>>ideas from you guys would be really cool!
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks Ray and all,
>>>Peter
>>>p.s: I own a I-Phone 4s and might transfer personally to Apple just
>>>for work its pc
>>>
>>>On 3/21/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>> > You are way over thinking the issue here.  Like Dave and other people
>>> > have
>>> > said, you can think it to death and never really find a
>>> solution.  Here's my
>>> > advice.  Stop it.  then, ask yourself what you most want or need
>>> to do.  You
>>> > will find this narrows it down pretty fast.  Now, once you have that,
>>> > find
>>> > out what tools will best meet your needs.  For some, it's windows-for
>>> > others, like me, it's the Mac.  For still others, neither will
>>> do.  You will
>>> > never find fully comprehenceive tutorials for everything all laid out
>>> > for
>>> > you in one place.  At least, I don't think so.  Forget being spoon-fed
>>> > everything.  It ain't gonna happen.  So, take the advice I gave
>>> you to start
>>> > with above and see where that takes you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>>> > blind
>>> > built-in!
>>> > Sincerely,
>>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear NFB Talk Members,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    Would I be better off to better familarize myself with my existing
>>> >> screen reader Window-Eyes or learn what is necessary for entry level
>>> >> for federal liberal arts career track e.g. Jaws instead? I'm always
>>> >> puzzling on tutorials of my former screen reader cause they are
>>> >> partial or completely devoid of adaquate detail examples to
>>> >> professions with endorsements or whatever for proper context. I know
>>> >> that Internal Revenue Service or Social Security like the Department
>>> >> of Defense use the CAP office that usually recommends Jaws screen
>>> >> reader so logic says to go with it instead of existing technology.
>>> >> Maybe I should just focus purely on Jaws from scratch on their
>>> >> tutorials at a state rehabilitation center or individually, then 
>>> >> focus
>>> >> on existing screen reader Window-Eyes or what would you recommend in
>>> >> this situation?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    I know this sounds like I'm over thinking the situation just that
>>> >> I've been dealing with this for years on this problem. I swerar one 
>>> >> of
>>> >> the things that I hate being blind is that too much emphasis is on
>>> >> what assistive technology can do not what can't do. I'd prefer a
>>> >> comprehensive report or tutorial on all the things sighted 
>>> >> individuals
>>> >> can do and what we can't being blind. Simple as a former sighted
>>> >> person that I'd appreciate this view much more than this muddy waters
>>> >> approach that just confuses the daylights out of everything for me. I
>>> >> also tire of the Federations dream-like imagination that blind folks
>>> >> can do everything cause simply this isn't true like in programming
>>> >> that isn't true anymore than they cannot do anything.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    Thanks for any and all advice on this subject cause I'm thoroughly
>>> >> confused on what to do. I tire so much just want to quit cause of
>>> >> being discouraged on the list in some ways. Your approaches of
>>> >> encouragement aren't what I'm accustomed to on my fragile self-esteem
>>> >> cause that is something blind people like me are in low supply of at
>>> >> the moment. I'm schedule for a three month job in a few months in 
>>> >> town
>>> >> for temporary work experience so just want a job. I just don't know
>>> >> how best to go about it that is it. Since how I wasn't born blind 
>>> >> that
>>> >> my patience is much more thinner in this technical jargon or way of
>>> >> thinking than you are accustomed to being blind your whole life or
>>> >> whatever. Thank you for understanding how I feel and coming from my
>>> >> prospective on this subject.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you,
>>> >> Peter Q wolfe, BA
>>
>>
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>
> -- 
> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
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