[Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers

Wed Jul 2 05:30:41 UTC 2014

Hi, Christine,

Or, your kid!
CarAt 08:28 AM 7/1/2014, Christine Olivares wrote:
>Amen Carly! My husband and I applied for guide dogs, and though we 
>have not heard whether we got accepted, if we did, I know I would 
>want everyone and their brother to stop me and ask for my guide 
>dog's name. People are very comfortable with animals, sometimes more 
>than humans, and by giving our dog's name, we can help these people 
>feel comfortable around us and humanity as a whole.
>
>Animals are very therapeutic, and by sharing them, we can bring lots 
>of healing to this world. I would proudly show off my dog because 
>the dog is a part of me. It's like sharing your spouse.
>
>thanks,
>Christine
>On Jul 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk 
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Good afternoon, Liz,
> >
> > A Sociologist thinker who studied people he refers too as normals 
> (meaning people un effected),  and in turn blind people Have you 
> ever begged a question of why normals are curious about knowing 
> your dog? I believe people experience blindness in terms of a 
> second hand, on a person2person basis. If you, as I do, recruit 
> ol'Sighty to guide you, even when you might not particularly need 
> help, you can sort of, through humor and straight talk show them 
> how approachable, even humorous we can be?
> > If I had a dog, you better believe I would want people to know 
> about us, how we work together, how are sharing is symbiotic in 
> nature. So, if you are proud of your 4-legged leader, perhaps you 
> can be proud to share him with whomever should want to know him?
> > So, Liz, Why are normals, generally afraid or at least ill at 
> ease around us?
> > I imagine it is primarily because people have rebuffed 
> their  gestures of support at least, and at worst have down-right 
> rude or emasculating.  The average  sighted person's being so 
> intrigued since, as Peter said, almost as a rule normals never, 
> ever come into personal contact with a blink so, obviously it is 
> their instinct to act like any blind people with whom they make 
> personal contact are you know, zoo animals. For a change, try 
> stepping outside of yourself, understanding that presences are 
> scariest while submerged by darkness and, don't be rude since the 
> last thing you want is for all blinks to be ascribed with having 
> chips on their shoulders? Perhaps, be mindful of working toward the 
> end of bringing levity and light when uncomfortable, not hostility?
> > Car 07:03 AM 6/29/2014, Elizabeth Campbell via blindtlk wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >> Besides the unwanted prayers, those of us with guide dogs face 
> an incredible
> >> amount of what I call public interference.
> >> I don't know how others feel, but it bothers me that people come 
> up to me at
> >> Starbucks or while I'm waiting for the bus and always ask for my 
> dog's name.
> >> I sometimes say that I don't give that information out when my dog is
> >> working, or I sometimes ask the person for their name. The response is
> >> always that they just want to know the dog's name. I find that to be very
> >> offensive because again, we are not seen as people.
> >>
> >> Just my thoughts.
> >>
> >> Liz
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mark Tardif
> >> via blindtlk
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 AM
> >> To: Marion Gwizdala; Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
> >>
> >> Amen, Marion, I couldn't agree with your more.  And really, what gives
> >> someone the right to violate your personal space in that way?  And you are
> >> right, this suggests that this person in their ignorance doesn't 
> view you as
> >>
> >> a whole person.  That says more about them than it does about you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Tardif
> >> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marion Gwizdala via blindtlk
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:17 AM
> >> To: 'Carly Mihalakis' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
> >>
> >> Car,
> >> I will respectfully disagree! First of all, no one has the right to
> >> touch me without my permission. Secondly, those who feel a need 
> to pray for
> >> me to be healed of my blindness is tantamount to someone wishing 
> to pray for
> >> someone to heal them of their dark skin color. The underlying 
> judgement they
> >> are making is that I am not a whole person because of my blindness, an
> >> assumption I reject. In fact, I tell those wishing to pray for my healing
> >> that I have already been healed of the myths and misconceptions that
> >> blindness is a malady to be healed; therefore, I tell them, I 
> will pray for
> >> them to be healed of their ignorance and misconceptions. I also share with
> >> them that my blindness is actually a source of healing for others, helping
> >> those who are blind heal themselves of the same limitations I once placed
> >> upon myself.
> >>
> >> Blessings!
> >> Marion Gwizdala
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
> >> Mihalakis via blindtlk
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:06 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
> >>
> >> Hi, Eric,
> >>
> >> Just know that, people's placing their hands on your eyes and 
> praying is not
> >> so much about you, or your blindness,but about their 
> spirituality. You said
> >> yourself, you resented when others tried challenging your faith. Perhaps,
> >> you extend the same acceptance as is your expectation of others?
> >> Car
> >> >Arielle, I have your mindset, as well.  As I get older, my tolerance
> >> >level shrinks.  I'm 5-9, and people have even bad-mouthed me for not
> >> >accepting my lack by not taking their help, wanting to become violent.
> >> >And one person even criticized me for my faith in God, when I,
> >> specifically, was praying
> >> >for a new cane after it was broken.  Two things are   out-of-bounds,
> >> >praying for my blindness because they feel sorry for me, and laying
> >> >their hands on my eyes.
> >> >
> >> >Eric
> >> >..
> >> >
> >> >..
> >> >
> >> >Eric from Los Angeles.  Live life!  Love community!  Eric on Facebook:
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