[Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
Annely Rose
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Fri May 22 10:05:08 UTC 2015
Check with the american diabetes Association, 888-342-2383, and ask them about what is available to make it less painful for giving injections to kids. I have read Diabetes Forecast in the past and heard about items, but don't remember them off the top of my head. There are many children who have to take injections for their diabetes, so there must be something out there. also, this may be a liability issue so I would be careful or get something in writing from the mother that she gives her permission for you to dispense the medications. This is a very sensitive area. Good luck and God bless.
Annely
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On Thu, 5/21/15, Julie J. via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
Date: Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:57 PM
I have no idea. I'm
just sharing what I've found has worked for me.
Personally I wouldn't be
comfortable giving an injection to a child who
isn't mine who is that upset over
it. As a Mom it wouldn't be something I
would ask a babysitter to do. It
seems out of the realm of what is
normally
expected of a babysitter. Of course, I'm not you and
all I know
about the situation is what
you've written. I do hope you find a workable
solution.
Julie
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[Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
Then how would I push the
plunger? I now need a 3rd hand. I got one
holding her arm/skin, and the other holding the
needle. Wouldn't I have to
let go with
one hand?
They actually
suggested to the mom since she's so frightened by the
procedure to try maybe no needle, but instead
to use air puncture. Have you
heard of
anyone doing that? If so, does it hurt?
Chris.
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions about
administerring medicine.
> To do subcutaneous
injections, I've found that it is easiest to gently
> pinch the skin and pull it away from the
underlying muscles. Then you
> inject
into the skin you have pulled up, being sure not to press
the
> needle all the way through and out
the other side.
>
>
All I know about the situation is what you have written
here. To me there
> was a lot of
description about how emotional the situation is for you,
> with a blindness question at the
end. I hope you figure out a solution
> that works for you as well as the mom and
kiddo.
>
> Julie
> Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest
to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
>
available! Get the book here:
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> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland via
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> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015
8:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions
about administerring medicine.
>
> It's going right under the skin. Not
into a muscel. That's why it's more
> tricky for me, as I don't have to push
as hard to get it in, and I'm just
>
nurvous I'll push to hard.
>
> With all due respect, I disagree
strongly with your comment regarding it
> not being blindness related. The problem
is, yes, though I don't want to
>
hurt her, I inevitably am going to. It's a shot!
It's gonna! hurt!
> Period! The
issue is more, I'm fearful because I cannot see the tip
of
> the
> needle,
and I can't therefore seem to be able to feel when it
pierces the
> skin. I can't use her
screaming as a guide, as she's doing that 2 minutes
> before I even toucher let alone!
sticker. I have to keep soothing her,
>
saying, sweety pie, I've not even touched you yet!
Why're you crying? The
> last time I
did it about a week and a half ago, I'll admit, I almost
did
> it
>
successfully, but right at the very last second, she
riggled, and made me
> lose my
concentration. Finally the mom just had to go
hand-over-hand and
> guide me.
>
> I do agree with
Arielle, that I shouldn't be made to do this if
it's
> freaking me out that badly.
I may just have to tell her, I can't keep
> watching Chelsea if you're gonna
insist me doing this. I have no problem
> giving her the other stuff, but...
yeah...
>
> I think,
if I was! to keep trying, I probably could get the hang of
it,
> but
> seeing I
only watch her maybe once a month, I'm not sure it's
worth me
> putting forth the effort that
it would take.
>
>
Chris.
>
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions
about administerring medicine.
>
>
>> For the liquid
medication, use an oral syringe. It's like a regular
>> syringe, but without a needle.
You use a knife or scissors to mark the
>> plunger, so when it's pulled out
to the tactile mark the correct amount
>> of liquid will be in the syringe.
Fill it by putting the tip into the
>> liquid and pulling back the plunger.
You can usually hear or feel if you
>> are pulling in air, but a few practice
runs should clear up any concerns.
>>
The medication won't spill or even drip until you press
the plunger. You
>> can squirt it
into her mouth.
>>
>> For the needle syringe question...I
have given injections to dogs. I
>>
held the dog's leg with my left hand, with my thumb next
to where I was
>> aiming. Then
I'd put the needle in right next to my thumb so I could
use
>> it as a reference point for
how far it was going in. I could feel the
>> resistance though, which also helped
in knowing how far into the muscle I
>> was. Are you injecting into a
muscle, just under the skin or into fat?
>> There's a different technique for
subcutaneous injections.
>>
>> Honestly though, I think most of your
concerns are not about blindness,
>>
but about your fear of causing the girl
pain. That's understandable and
>> it's something you'll need to
sort out. Sometimes though, I think we
>> attribute too many things to
blindness, when they are just ordinary life
>> concerns. My question about ketchup
bottles is in this category. Really
>> it isn't so much about blindness
as it is general frustration with a
>> common struggle for everyone. I have
witnessed sighted folks trying to
>>
get the ketchup to come out of the bottle, shaking,
thumping, using their
>> butter knife
and swearing profusely. BTW swearing seems to work just as
>> well as the other techniques!
>>
>> I hope you
find success in your babysitting endeavors,
>> Julie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland via
blindtlk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21,
2015 7:19 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing
List
>> Cc: Christopher-Mark
Gilland
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Two
questions about administerring medicine.
>>
>> I have two
questions. Again, now, I'm the one who probably is
askking
>> admittedly a very valid
question, but yet a somewhat awquard question.
>>
>> I often have
to babysit a little girl. She's the sweetest little
thing
>> at
>>
4 years old, but blesser heart, she has two medications she
has to take
>> on a
>> regular basis. Usually, her mom
gives them to her before leaving her for
>> the evening in my care, but the mom
has expressed that she really would
>> like
>> for me
to learn to do this myself for her. It's not a matter
of her
>> being
>> lazy and not wanting to take care of
her child. Don't even go there!
>> It's
>> just
she is in her words, trying to prove to me that I can! do
this, and
>> that just because I am
blind, doesn't mean anything in context of the
>> action
>> at
hand.
>>
>> So,
here's more specifically the deal. She has to be given
a kitchen
>> spoon
>> sized doce of liquid medicine. I
know it's usually the same principle as
>> putting liquid on a spoon when cooking
then putting it in your mixing
>>
bowl
>> or whatever, but I cannot for
the life of me find an easy way to do this.
>> I'm always so frightened that
I'm gonna miss and hit her eye, or bopper
>> on
>> the nose
or worse when trying to get it in her mouth. She usually
does
>> open
>>
up, which is a plus. I don't think she really minds
the taste, but it's
>> just very
hard for me, as I get really nurvous, and my hands start
>> trembling. I'm not so much
scared of getting it in her mouth, as I am of
>> spilling it off the spoon. Yeah, I
could pour it in a little cup then
>>
just
>> have her drink it that way,
but then it makes it really really hard to
>> measure out the correct amount, and
I'd be scared I'd give her too much,
>> or
>> too
little.
>>
>>
The other med she has to take is much, and I do mean much
much much much!
>> more difficult. I
do want some hints on the above, but here's the one
>> I'm
>>
r'r'r'r'really! struggling with that I
desperetly! could use some blind
>>
tips
>> on. She also has to take a
medication which is injected as a shot. Poor
>> baby! And what makes it worse is,
she's not exactly a very good sport
>> about
>> it
either. To say she's really brave is bigger than the
state of Texas
>> of a
>> lie. LOL! Let's just say,
you'd better be wearing ear plugs or cotton
>> balls if you have sensitive ears, as
it's ear screeching! Anyway, the
>> thing
>> is, I
don't just get scared the few times I've been asked
to give it to
>> her,
>> but I just about pannick myself. I
know, one would say to me, there's my
>> first problem right there!
Don't? pannick! The first time I start that,
>> I'll make it more scarey for her,
plus, I'll start doing dumb things. The
>> mom has said for me to start by just
taking a deep breath before I do it,
>> but my biggest concern is, I can't
feel the point of the needle when it
>> goes in. Oh yeah, she screams bloody
murder, which is usually an
>>
indication
>> that I'm in, at
which point, I push the plunger until it clicks, but my
>> thing is, I can't see it go in,
and being it's so sharp, I have naturally
>> a
>> really
really heavy hand. I'm scared I'll jabber!
Actually, a few
>> times, I
>> have made about a half inch cut on her
arm where she wenced back
>>
flinching
>> in pain, and therefore my
hand slipped. I don't wanna grab her little
>> arm
>> too hard,
as it's gonna hurt her already escrutiatingly as is, but
then,
>> you
>>
add my tight grip on top a that? No? thank you!
We've tried having her
>> lie
>> down on her bed on her back, so that
she can only resist but so much, but
>> it
>> still is
very difficult. Further, I'm even just as much scared
that if I
>> feel where I'm about
to stick her, for one, it won't be staril, and for
>> 2,
>> I'm
just as much, if not more, frightened that I'll wind up
accidentally
>> sticking myself.
Granted, I've not hit the plunger, so it's not like
I'd
>> get any of the medication,
God forbid, but it still would hurt like a son
>> of
>> a gun!
>>
>> So, if any of
you who're blind with absolutely no vision at all like
>> shapes,
>>
colors, etc. have given an injection, especially even more
so if it was
>> to a
>> little rugrat, how do you safely do
this? The mom is really insistant
>> on,
>> you can
do this, you just need to relax, and calm down. I just
feel I'm
>> always so tense, and
hurky jerky when I do it. There's gotta be a way!
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>
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