[Blindtlk] Just Venting!

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hold on a second.  Pam is with the NFBL.  Please keep in mind I'm not saying you necessarily need the adult program at the center.  I don't know you:  so, can't tell.  as for Voc rehab, they and I fell out a long time ago too:  so, you see, I personally do understand your feelings about that bunch.  Still, I offered what I did in the hope that perhaps Pam might know personally of resources outside those channels.  Besides, she's a good person to talk to and I suspect you could stand that about now.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

> On May 30, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So when you say agency for the blind I am assuming you mean Voc Rehab.
> Been there done that. I got a Bachelorthen was working on a Master's
> when it all fell apart. I could continue though after further review
> of the program I realized I was probably in the wrong program like
> there is a difference between M. Ed. and M.A. Anyway, I have forgotten
> why I chose that and what it actually is good for. Went back to them
> for another bachelor and also to buy some time to get myselftogether
> and work on paying some student loans but they didn't pursue. I could
> try the BEP program which my ex used to do and it seems everyone feels
> that is a good fit for me but it isn't and I fear yet another failure
> beyond my control. I would stay at Affiliated Blind of Louisiana (ABL)
> for that. I would be alright workingfor someone already in the program
> though since I had some experience before. How do I find that out
> thougheven though THAT IS NOT my cup of tea.
> 
> I get the impression though that once more and again we are back to
> being led toward certain acceptable programs like BEP and VOC Rehab.
> Why does the agency do that and why do we have to go along with it? Of
> course, VR counseling is an option, but I know sighted folk definitely
> get hired in that role without a qualifying Masters degree. I got 5 on
> it I couldn't though. And yes, I been through the STEp program at LCB
> but don't know how to justify going through the Adult Program.
> 
> Thanks Everyone,
> 
> Danielle
> P.S. And with all this constant hacking I'm experiencing, I am led to
> think someone might be in need of training but unable or more likely
> unwilling to go somewhere and doing something about me so it is easier
> to harass and shush me to cover up. I could be wrong though. Just my
> thoughtful quiet observation. That or I'm just the wrong target in a
> whole lot of confusion.
> 
> 
> On 5/30/15, Ray Foret Jr via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Danielle,
>> 
>> Are you in Louisiana?  Perhaps as a first real step, you might want to give
>> Pam Alan a call.  You'll be calling the Louisiana Center for the blind.
>> Call this number:
>> 800-234-4166
>> 
>> I offer this in an effort to actually be substantively helpful.  Now, maybe
>> you don't need the adult training program like what I went through, but,
>> perhaps Pam can better direct you to help on a more effective basis.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> right on point Ray. My only other options are go to a shelter or try
>>> school again I don't know wwho could be in such need as to ruin one
>>> person's life in particular? I unfortunately have never lied to the
>>> government.I don't know how a person could trump their nees over
>>> innocent children. Young innocent and even a person's unborn children.
>>> How is that conscionable and all-around excusable?
>>> 
>>> Quite frankly, I feel like me and my children have been, in effect,
>>> murdered! What's funny, fun, cool and all alright about that? The only
>>> reason I have written so poignantly hear is to save face for those who
>>> just might be innocent and frankly, I have no where else to find
>>> support since I am not involved in civil rights activism and I seem to
>>> get abandoned and attacked or silenced elsewhere and just to try and
>>> keep reasonably well I share in hope it REALLY WILL bring true,
>>> meaningful help for ME as well as shine light on an ongoing problem
>>> which I KNOW is drastically affecting others. Maybe someone WILL have
>>> the CORRECT solution to stop this madness.
>>> 
>>> Danielle
>>> P.S Sad when it feels like there is no help in sight or available to
>>> you and you alone.
>>> 
>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'll keep trying with the government help.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Mostly out here, if you don't drive your option is a cab if not family
>>>>> and friends. Pretty much everybody works around here and it's about 20
>>>>> minutes to town so I am on my own. The places I have lived with family
>>>>> and friends since the divorce have been rural so transportation is
>>>>> always an issue. Even checking the papes most of the places available
>>>>> to rent appear to be rural and you need first month's rent and
>>>>> deposit. I could get that in a couple of monts or four time but then I
>>>>> have to have extra to sustain. Any ideas?I guess I'll keep trying w
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Continuing on. Excuse the typos and lack of punctuation the last
>>>>>> message. NVDa went somewhere else and was silent whenever I would
>>>>>> arrowup, down, left or right so couldn't correct. So what I would need
>>>>>> is continuous, dependable cash, support, my own children tliving with
>>>>>> me, fully functioning dependable technology, and dependable
>>>>>> transportation that wouldn't cost me so much and a lack of negative
>>>>>> interference and lies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>> P.S I have beneifted from the government phone as well in the past. I
>>>>>> now still have a prepaid phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh and thanks Ray. You know but it seems even everybody is  to the
>>>>>>> point of breaking How convenient. It is all a big act erm, race
>>>>>>> competition to see who can receive help or the most helpor and
>>>>>>> recognition or to get out of wrongdoing. You know like verybody wanna
>>>>>>> plead insanity toget out of making restitution for wrongdoing and
>>>>>>> pass
>>>>>>> the blame and responsibility to others no apologies necessary. That's
>>>>>>> what it all seems like to me. I am done leading with my heart! People
>>>>>>> are quick to take advantage that way. Peaople who really needhelp
>>>>>>> can't get it because somebody else who don't has beat them to the
>>>>>>> punch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Judy, the answer is no. I had a plan and was working towards
>>>>>>> independence again and that got shot to hell. I mean after I got on
>>>>>>> SSI, I applied for Food Stamps which I had until the courts gave
>>>>>>> custody to my ex. Then, instead of decreasing me they automatically
>>>>>>> cut me off.
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I had applied for, with the help of my sister and got a
>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>> substitute teaching but didn't have ransportation going back and
>>>>>>> forth, was living with another friend for a while but wsh suddenly
>>>>>>> acted like I was a burden before I ever got another call. I missed
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first call because I had a prepaid phone and didn't have any minutes
>>>>>>> on the phone when the call came through. While living with that
>>>>>>> friend
>>>>>>> I got a list of low--income housing and went down the list for a
>>>>>>> second time and applied to all the apartments I could, but only got
>>>>>>> responses from one particular complex in my mother's name. I
>>>>>>> corrected
>>>>>>> the letter and told them yes I was interested and never heard from
>>>>>>> them again. Mind you I said second time because the first time I had
>>>>>>> done this when I had my kids with me and I also had gotten a housing
>>>>>>> voucher. I ended up losing my voucher because I had to move from my
>>>>>>> aunt's house since my ex would not follow the visitation rules and
>>>>>>> would pick up the children from school and drop them off periodically
>>>>>>> and my aunt became scared which lead to falling out. Now when I
>>>>>>> checked the last time the housing voucher list is closed as usual as
>>>>>>> it was in Baton rouge when I left. I have put in some applications at
>>>>>>> a nursing home here, a grocery store, the movie theater, and the
>>>>>>> school system as a bus assistant but haven't heard from them which I
>>>>>>> am not necessarily complaining about at this point because I have
>>>>>>> stiff joints and fatigue often but I don't have enough money saved up
>>>>>>> to travel everyday. My plan was to try and put an ad in the paper for
>>>>>>> a driver if I got called for interview I could do the bus assistant
>>>>>>> because they would be able to puck me up. I had an app for Teacher
>>>>>>> Assistant as we which would work with the bus but that was stolen
>>>>>>> twice. So, at this point I am broke and broken
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Good morning, Danielle,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What a racket!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Seems to me, you could be far too invested in, as I like to think of
>>>>>>>> them, have been within my own experience, those animate paper
>>>>>>>> weights
>>>>>>>> every body seems so edgy over. What has worked for me is to utilize
>>>>>>>> the comput for all the things you named I.E. getting travel
>>>>>>>> instructions and relevant spellings, restaurant menus E-mail and the
>>>>>>>> like but for me, no social media, no games, only cursory internet
>>>>>>>> searches but I believe people particularly blind people are duped
>>>>>>>> into believing they need all this shit when, if you just try letting
>>>>>>>> the stuff you don't absolutely need, such as social media, go until
>>>>>>>> such time that you come to terms with your relationship with the
>>>>>>>> role
>>>>>>>> of tech within your personal experience?
>>>>>>>> Of course, this is what has worked for me, you might be like a
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> dedicated social mediite?
>>>>>>>> Car
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 11 PM 5/29/2015, Judy Jones via blindtlk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What would it take for you to get out on your own.  Have you
>>>>>>>>> developed a step by step plan?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:32 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Danielle Antoine
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Just Venting!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm alright but I have had it! I just wanna leave. No more games,
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> more appeasements, no more peacekeeping efforts on my part, no more
>>>>>>>>> acting like it's all okay because it's not. Just wanna be on my own
>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>> ! I don't need help if it's not the way I need it! I'll be able to
>>>>>>>>> recover easier once I'm in charge of my own life in my own space.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alanna, yeah I know I have my own issues to resolve and that is why
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> write albeit usually in my space. Problem is, all my spaces keep
>>>>>>>>> getting taken away with computers always never functioning properly
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> this way or that. Somebody is repeatedly breaking into my computers
>>>>>>>>> and everybody else act like either they don't know who it is and
>>>>>>>>> refuse to make them stop or report them, or it does NOT matter
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> they all have Apple phones and Androids and don't seem to EVER get
>>>>>>>>> targeted. Frankly, I wwent to post brief ness on FB about it only
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> find FB is acting up and I can't post. The rest of my blind friends
>>>>>>>>> don't have these repeated computer problems and it is too the point
>>>>>>>>> where Windows has even gotten restricted in some places like I
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> even access the start menu and I just paid $345 less than a month
>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>> to fix this computer, $219 the month before to fix a desktop but I
>>>>>>>>> have no speech on it right now or place to set it up, and I have
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> more yet to go. I had to use MS Office on one that was zapped and
>>>>>>>>> suddenly couldn't get on the Internet after I just bought a
>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>> Hot Spot card. It wasn't accessible for me and luckily the company
>>>>>>>>> discontinued it for me. I thought once they switched providers over
>>>>>>>>> hear all this would stop. Now I have to decide to buy another
>>>>>>>>> battery
>>>>>>>>> and charger for it or try to get Office Depot to put MS Office 2013
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> this one, which I bought and is supposedly on that desktop. You
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> now it don't come on a CD-rom but a card with download
>>>>>>>>> instructions.
>>>>>>>>> Who can do much of anything without a word processor? This delays
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> though and I lost months and months of work wich I won't be able to
>>>>>>>>> retrieve unless I spend money on a battery and charger for a
>>>>>>>>> dinosaur
>>>>>>>>> as they say which is only 8 years old but totally in working order
>>>>>>>>> until........one fateful day.....today. They suddenl froze up and
>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>> black after I tried to make changes to NVDA. That's not including
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> $100 in transportation costs to drop off and retrieve them. Anyway
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> end up losing everything I have saved to the hard drives because
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> always an Optimize and Restore order. Makes me wonder if their isn't
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> key of mine giving access to my computer out there. It all started
>>>>>>>>> once I divorced my ex and gradually got worse. Rather, he filed for
>>>>>>>>> divorce 5 years ago and made out like a bandit. That old you can't
>>>>>>>>> prove it cause your blind bit. Not passing blame but I can't figure
>>>>>>>>> where this is originating and want it to stop! These are not fun
>>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>>> to be playing with me. I don't know how I could possibly be safe by
>>>>>>>>> being shut down. It's gambling. Why do I need a computer? Simply
>>>>>>>>> put,
>>>>>>>>> to function. Communicate with the outside world, to get
>>>>>>>>> information,
>>>>>>>>> to job hunt, read mail, pay bills, for entertainment as in plaing
>>>>>>>>> fun,
>>>>>>>>> free harmless games for worthless points, to learn, work, keep up
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> latest trends inside and outside of the blindness community, get
>>>>>>>>> addresses so I can plan my cab trips, look up spellings of certain
>>>>>>>>> words and anames, keep up with my children, shop, etc. It's just
>>>>>>>>> senseless violence and passive aggression. I do agree about the
>>>>>>>>> individual and family therapy but that likely will never happened
>>>>>>>>> because black folk don't believe in getting counseling. Actually, I
>>>>>>>>> was in therapy when I was in the city. Thanks for the prayers, hug
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> love.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/29/15, River Linda via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Danielle,
>>>>>>>>>> Big hug and love to you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 29, 2015, Ray Foret Jr via blindtlk
>>>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Danielle, it sounds to me like you've had this huge pile-on
>>>>>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>> and building and building up for quite a while now.  Frankly, it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> me like there are a number of unresolved issues between you and
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> family:  but, the long and the short of it feels like this.  You
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> totally blind, and, your family, despite your best efforts,
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> think of you as even a normal person but just some pitiful poor
>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>> girl
>>>>>>>>>>> to be looked after and pitied and felt sorry for and not let do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>> Some sighted people feel this way too, believe it or not.  So,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily a blindness thing:  but, in your case, and given the
>>>>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> your remarks, it sure sounds like that in your case, it might be
>>>>>>>>>>> blindness
>>>>>>>>>>> caused.  It also seems to me that you haven't just sat there and
>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> build up:  but rather, that you have made every effort after
>>>>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> a difference:  but now, most recently, something has happened
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> caused you either to snap or else feel like you want to.  Have I
>>>>>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> out about right?  Danelle, I wish I had a specific answer to all
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> you say:  but, I suspect that some of the blind women on this
>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> able to help you better with the specific items you list off.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> merely
>>>>>>>>>>> enter here because I am concerned, and wanted to lend what moral
>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> can to a fellow blind person who, it seems to me, is on the edge
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> breaking.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 29, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk <
>>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just cannot stand it when somebody say you can do something
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody else do it or just prevent you from doing so. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>> often,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always what I'm doing. Like for instance, my brother and
>>>>>>>>>>>> sister
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't have jobs wasn't looking for jobs until I started. Well
>>>>>>>>>>>> bless
>>>>>>>>>>>> God Hallallujah, thank you Jesus, they both got jobs while I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting at home. In fact, it cost me more because they have
>>>>>>>>>>>> transporation and drive whereas, I don't have those luxuries and
>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>> Im located it's really not feasible for me to work even if I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> optimal health. Anyway, my sister followed through with the apps
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> for her and my brother didn't and my mom allowed it; they both
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> hired through someone else's efforts in the end. I hoe they keep
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs this time! They both are lucky and have no problems getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> hired
>>>>>>>>>>>> with minimal effort! I have a lot of time on my hands so can
>>>>>>>>>>>> devote
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> a few mmindless things that don't require me to think so hard or
>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>> much energy. So, why all this unnecessary stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>> aggravation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>>> my blind parents, how do you go about picking baby gear on your
>>>>>>>>>>>> own?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> lost my babies oh about a couple of months ago and my other
>>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>> three children live with their father. but I had gotten the okay
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of friends prior to all this to document pattern
>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>> and everytime I start I can never get very far do to computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> breakage, stealing of software, hacking and such through no
>>>>>>>>>>>> fault
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my own. As we all know, our technology is expensive and can not
>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>> be replaced in a day or so. Even whene we fix one thing such as
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop or desktop, we still need to install a screen reader, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Office since it is now not standard and if you have scanning
>>>>>>>>>>>> software so it is not off the shelf ready to rock and roll. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> SSI only. Believe me, this has to be somebody sighted who
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> want this job if they had it but I am happy to do it. I really
>>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this out of sheer frustration. Since my niece came along,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> adults in her life started buying everything with like
>>>>>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> such when it would've made mor sense for them to buy colored
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like for real people! They can see things like, tangerine, gold,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everest, purple, onyx, Paisley, Fuschia, Bromley, Go Green,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn, Cowmooflage  and such like that. I mean, really what
>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean to a total who has never seen colors or seen them clear
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> their life? Those are just examples of pattern names And colors
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> they can esily coordinate accordingly rather than snatching up
>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. My sister knew she was having  a girl and instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> neutral stuff as well. what ever happened to commonsense,
>>>>>>>>>>>> courtesy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> consideration, feelings, and boundaries? My mom denied my
>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>>> though so I hope she is happy with my loss on top of me being
>>>>>>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>>>>>>> to honor the visitation agreement with my children since she and
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> ex
>>>>>>>>>>>> have serious beef! I should also mention ther have been about 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> babies in total born since she has and that is what so angers me
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> more. Also, most of her things relate back to my own teenage and
>>>>>>>>>>>> preteen's likes. In fact, my mom bought the exact same car seat
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought for my first son with a zoo theme! I should say that my
>>>>>>>>>>>> sister
>>>>>>>>>>>> was in jail but she knew what she was having before she went in
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> did not prepare. So about a month before my niece's arrival I
>>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at gear and stuff for her. I had planned to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed since I had saved a little money up, to take the worry
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>> and my mom who I was sure going fo likely get her and at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> talking about moving to where we are now with more space for my
>>>>>>>>>>>> sisters kids. Of course, I was looking at sex appropriate things
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> her from the diaper bag to the crib to a few toys and
>>>>>>>>>>>> washcloths.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> figure when its coming out of someone else's pocket it shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter thow much it cost since you didn't have nothing anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> time, I wasn't expecting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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