[Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand Human behavior

Wed Aug 10 19:05:36 UTC 2016

Either fold your money at the counter, or put your money in separate
pockets.  I ask the casheer to hand each denomination of the bills to me
separately, tens, fives ect. Then, I put them in different pockets. I folded
it at the counter befor,e but I'm not really keen on having anyone watch how
I fold my money.
Justin

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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand Human
behavior

Good afternoon, Judy,

         For me, there's nothing wrong with simply asking the cashier each
time cash is involved.
CarAt 12:40 PM 3/7/2015, Judy Jones via blindtlk wrote:
>I always fold my money at the counter, and does not take long at all.
>
>Judy
>
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder via blindtlk
>Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 3:11 PM
>To: 'Chris Nusbaum' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand 
>Human behavior
>
>Hello, Chris. A couple of easy comments: most blind people I know would 
>not offer somebody a 50 if the purchase they were trying to make was 
>for $16. If I make a purchase for seven dollars, I normally give 
>someone a 10. If I make a purchase for 13, I give them 15 or maybe a 
>20. It is certainly easy to argue that we may not have bills that are 
>close to our purchase price, but it is a lot easier to do than one 
>might think. If I want to break a big bill, I often do it in a place I 
>frequent or in a place where there is a good size line, and seldom do I 
>just pocket the money. I don't think it is too much to ask the clerk to 
>tell me what bills he is handing me. I think it may be too much to wait 
>until you are in the line to find your app, bring it up on the phone, and
then test every bill.
>
>It is not always an easy call to know when it is your right to hold up 
>a line and when it is your responsibility to see that that line moves 
>along. I don't think there is any one-size-fits-all answer for these
situations.
>
>As for the comment about taking your iPhone out in dangerous places, I 
>suspect that someone who wants to rob you doesn't need the visual 
>prompting that you have devices of value on your person. How many 
>people travel without a cellular phone? I remember being in a bus 
>station once and being warned that letting people see that I had a 
>cellular phone could be dangerous. I wonder how many of these 
>situations are less likely to happen now that people know that most 
>cellular phones have cameras and that you may be just as likely of 
>being in a face time call as you are a voice call. No matter how you 
>cut it, if somebody wants your iPhone, give it up. It is far less 
>valuable than any injury you might suffer. You have insurance to assure 
>its replacement. You do not have the same guarantee about your life or 
>the ability to restore things that might be broken in an assault. It 
>goes against the testosterone that flows in my bloodstream to say this, but
objects are only objects, and there are better fights to fight.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris 
>Nusbaum via blindtlk
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:27 PM
>To: 'Bob Hachey'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification and 
>Human behavior
>
>Bob and All,
>
>What a fascinating video and ensuing discussion! As Arielle pointed 
>out, it is likely that actual blind people getting ripped off by 
>dishonest cashiers is more rare than the public makes it out to be. 
>This is especially true considering the fact that most places in which 
>money is transacted are public, so the unsuspecting blind person is 
>likely to be "rescued" (I don't like using this term in this context, 
>but it's the only one I can think of at the moment) from the scam by a 
>concerned bystander. As some on this list have pointed out, however, 
>this is not merely a hypothetical worst-case scenario--it has happened to
real blind people in the real world.
>
>I for one have never been deliberately short-changed by anyone, though 
>I have always been very conscientious about holding up the line behind 
>me when transacting money. I have heard Dave's sentiments expressed by 
>many in my personal life, both blind and sighted: Sort the money then 
>and check its authenticity; don't worry about the line behind you. As I 
>have improved my skill and speed in folding and organizing money in my 
>wallet, I have progressed from stuffing change in my pocket and waiting 
>to organize it until I'm home to folding and organizing the money while 
>at the counter based on the information the clerk has given me. 
>However, I have never been able to bring myself to check the accuracy 
>of the clerk's information using a bill identifier while at the 
>counter. As someone who uses the LookTell Money Reader app on my iPhone 
>as my bill identifier of choice, I found myself on the few occasions on 
>which I tried this method becoming more and more anxious about holding 
>up the line as I pulled out my phone, found the app, opened it, lined 
>up the camera and waited for the feedback. I just felt like I was becoming
way too much of an inconvenience to my fellow shoppers.
>This anxiety was further compounded when I tried this on a recent trip 
>to Baltimore, only to be warned by a passing good Samaritan that 
>thieves in the city would rip my iPhone out of my hand if they saw it 
>out in a public place. Risk, danger, more risk, and more danger!
>
>I don't know if there's a solution to this conundrum, but this constant 
>choosing between the lesser of two evils is frustrating. I guess, like 
>many other aspects of life, this is a matter of weighing the 
>trade-offs. I am very concerned with not making myself an 
>inconvenience, but at what point do I allow myself to sacrifice this 
>anxiety in order to ensure that I have the correct change? The iPhone 
>has opened up innumerable doors, including those which allow for 
>greater access to otherwise inaccessible material, such as the Money 
>Reader app for reading currency. However, those of us who live in or 
>frequently travel to urban areas must always be wary of those who might 
>want to steal our precious devices. And we must consider all this while 
>videos like this one remind us that not all of the public, even those 
>who are in the business of transacting money with customers, are as 
>honest as we would wish they were. I have struggled with these things for
some time now, but have never vented my frustrations to this list until this
moment.
>However, the video which Bob posted and the discussion which resulted 
>have inspired me to do it. Has anyone else delbt with these issues? If 
>so, I would very much appreciate hearing all thoughts on reconciling 
>these contradictory risks. Thanks for reading my rant. <Smile>
>
>Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
>Hachey via blindtlk
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:49 AM
>To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification and 
>Human behavior
>
>Hi all,
>
>Below my name, please find a link to a truly fascinating YouTube video. 
>Note that the blind people and clerks depicted here are actors and that 
>this is an experiment in human behavior. How will bystanders react when 
>a blind person is shortchanged because he or she cannot identify US 
>currency? While it is nice that we can get free money identifiers from 
>the BEP, how likely are we to use them when we are handed change and 
>people are waiting behind us in line?
>
>Bob Hachey
>
>
>
><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634
>
>
>
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