[Blindtlk] Sunday school courses

Weingartner, Paul PWeingartner at ag.org
Mon Aug 14 12:18:15 UTC 2017 

What age are you looking for? What country are you in? We might have something helpful in digital text.

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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:59 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses

i tried, but publishers say that they are not able to do this and author's personal contact info is hard to find.

On 8/14/17, Ericka via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Struggling to find Sunday school teachers is a universal problem! I 
> went to church with my grandparents today and the plea went out for 
> Sunday school teachers because those who are leading things weren't 
> able to do it this coming fall.
>
> Can you contact the publishers and see if they would be willing to 
> give you an e-book version?
> It's better than nothing and if you explain you're in a foreign 
> country they may be even more willing to help.
>
> Ericka Short
>  from my iPhone 6+
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 12:07 PM, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> no, i even struggle to find readers and people to dictate me the 
>> textbooks i need to use with my students for work. Every lesson is 
>> also different and you need to be fully prepared, now they also 
>> struggle to find sunday school teachers.
>>
>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Could you get a reader and just type in the text into the laptop in 
>>> a way that makes sense to you?  It wouldn't have to be word for 
>>> word, but maybe just the key points, discussion questions or 
>>> whatever you would need to be able to lead the class?
>>>
>>> You could also sit in on classes and take notes as someone else teaches.
>>> Then the next time new classes begin, you'd have the info you need 
>>> to be able to teach independently.
>>>
>>> Or you could work in tandem with another teacher, each of you taking 
>>> on the
>>>
>>> responsibilities that you are best at.
>>>
>>> From my own experience working with kids of all ages, if you stick 
>>> with reading out of a textbook for the entire session, everyone is 
>>> going to fall
>>>
>>> asleep or invent their own amusements.  You have to mix it up.  Have 
>>> some discussion, an activity, a story, some off topic time, an audio 
>>> or video piece etc.  Of course you don't need all of these every 
>>> time, but it does have to be different enough to keep their 
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Julie
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:31 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>
>>> Thanks, the books contain tables and pictures and i couldn't find 
>>> anyone to scan it and adapt it for me.  I don't use iphone, but have 
>>> a laptop with NVDA.
>>>
>>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Why can't the books be scanned?
>>>>
>>>> When I suggested Braille, I meant that I would personally make 
>>>> Braille notes
>>>>
>>>> for myself, with a slate or Braille writer. This is what I did when 
>>>> I taught
>>>>
>>>> at the college and at the after school programs.  I tried a lot of 
>>>> other options...Braille Note, iPad...and found that paper Braille 
>>>> worked best for
>>>>
>>>> me.  Again, this wasn't sent off and mass produced, it was 
>>>> information I personally Brailled for my own use.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have access to an iPhone or something similar?  What tools 
>>>> do you have available to you, and what do you need in order to do 
>>>> what you want?
>>>> With that info, I think we can work together to figure out 
>>>> something that could work for you.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
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>>>> toreid=1916046>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>>
>>>> Sunday school doesn't exist in the orthodox churches here, but I 
>>>> belong to an international church now with mostly foreigners. They 
>>>> got some books to use that can't be scanned and in macedonia we 
>>>> have trouble brailling textbooks for school, let alone other materials.
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Here Sunday School usually means the hour before, after or in 
>>>>> between church
>>>>>
>>>>> services that is typically for children to learn Bible stories 
>>>>> with their peers.
>>>>> I'm going to assume it's pretty much the same in your country.  If 
>>>>> not, ignore the rest of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid the Sunday School teachers were any willing 
>>>>> person or persons that were considered adults and the Pastor had 
>>>>> some belief they could manage the class.  There was no training 
>>>>> provided.  Some of the Sunday
>>>>>
>>>>> School teachers were my friends parents and they were really clueless.
>>>>> A
>>>>> lot of the time the Sunday School teachers were truly on their own 
>>>>> and could
>>>>>
>>>>> present pretty much whatever they wanted.  Later I do remember 
>>>>> cartoon handout things with some sort of message.  Mostly the 
>>>>> teachers brought juice
>>>>>
>>>>> and donuts in the hopes that it would keep us quiet long enough 
>>>>> for her to say whatever it is she wanted to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe that was just my church and maybe it's all changed in more 
>>>>> recent
>>>>> years.   Or maybe my group was really awful and we scared off the
>>>>> better
>>>>> teachers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway if you can get the materials ahead of time, you can get 
>>>>> them into Braille or a digital form so you can use them in the 
>>>>> class.  If the kids are
>>>>>
>>>>> rowdy, donuts do help! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com 
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>>>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall 
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>>>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:02 AM
>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>>>
>>>>> Wondering if anyone here had opportunities to take accessible 
>>>>> courses to enable them to teach kids Sunday school and how it all 
>>>>> went for them? in my country this is not available to blind or sighted people.
>>>>>
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