[Blindtlk] Braille
Cory McMahon
cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com
Thu Jan 25 02:55:25 UTC 2018
I, too, wish they hadn't changed to UEB.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jasmine
Kotsay via blindtlk
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:30 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
Hi,
I am also a proponent of Braille. It is unfortunate that the BANA
changed the version of Braille we read to UEB. I have been experiencing
this type of change since I am trying to be a TVI. I prefer the version of
Braille that I learned when I was six, 23 years ago. I feel as though
Braille is the only way to be truly literate. When listening to audio
books, which I love, I realize that I cannot understand how certain names,
places, and words are spelled. This is not a good thing. I believe that
having words at your fingertips is extremely important.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Haas via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Sat, 20 Jan
2018 10:52:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
Good Morning,
My name is Marianne and I live in Northern CA. I learned Braille early on
and several different languages. I am retired from teaching students with
visual impairments. I am definitely a proponent of braille.
There is one thing I did not see in this discussion:
Teachers of students with visual impairments have huge case loads,
especially if they have to travel to different schools.
Therefore, they
leave the teaching of braille to Assistants or encourage the students not to
learn braille. Parents need to be forceful in demanding that braille is
being taught. I also found that students do not want to learn braille as
they do not want to be different. I always let those students know, that
they can learn something exciting and they have something sighted students
do not have. For myself, I never got in trouble when I read at night when I
was supposed to be sleeping. My Sister always was caught reading as her
lamp was hot, while mine was cold.
I started my own little business, tutoring especially students with special
needs and advocating for parents of students with special needs in my area.
I do a lot business with bartering services. In fact, I hope I will get
more clients.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
via blindtlk
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:29 AM
To: 'Annely Rose'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Cc: Judy Jones
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
You are so right about everything you do with braille. My husband and I do
the same,although we also use the audio. Audio is secondary to braille, and
really not necessary. We grew up in an age where we were adults before
large-scale audio was available, went to college, and held down professional
positions, all without relying heavily on audio, but braille.
We use braille for bookkeeping, and there is nothing like holding a little
on in your lap while you both read a print/braille book.
When in a new city or having moved to a new area, I make braille notes when
familiarizing myself to an area, so I can go back to them very conveniently.
AT the job working for the state from which I recently retired, I was the
office manager, plus had my own case load, ran my own budget, ran a small
supplies store, and assisted another colleague. Braille helped me to get
all this done quickly and efficiently.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annely Rose
via blindtlk
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:05 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: Annely Rose
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
Well said, Judy. Thank you for your response.
Annely
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 1/20/18, Judy Jones via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Cc: "Judy Jones" <sonshines59 at gmail.com
Date: Saturday, January 20, 2018, 1:00 PM
Hi,
I would recommend you getting information from the National Organization
Of Parents Of Blind Children www.nopbc.org.
I would also encourage you to ask this question on the NFB Blind Educators
list.
My background is as school
teacher, parent, and person who has had ten and a half years'
experience
in the blindness field.
First of all people
need to understand that braille is "text" read with the fingers. It is
not a language. It need not be slower than reading print.
It
is a literacy tool, while audio is not. Different parts of the brain are
used when reading braille or print, and if you use audio only, no matter
how proficient you are at it, you are functionally "illiterate." This is
not a slam on any individual personally, just a given fact, since braille
is a literacy tool.
Phrases like "learn
braille," and "use braille," should be out the door, and exchanged for the
simple verb, "read," because that is what it is, plain and
simple: reading.
Blind adults and children learning to
"read" need to work at it
consistently, 20 minutes daily, just as their sighted counterparts are
taught in school. Print and braille are BOTH forms of reading, and if you
practice, you will succeed.
Question: Would any sighted
parent be satisfied if a school declared that their children would be
relegated to audio experience only? I think not!
Audio only learners are spotted early, because of poor spelling,
punctuation, and document layout. Granted, screen readers have all the
tools for you to check these things, but a person has no concept of a
realtime document if they are audio learners only.
I am acquainted personally with a child who has very limited vision, but
because there is some vision, braille was not encouraged. This elementary
school child, according to the parents, has never seen a whole word or
sentence, does not have a concept of what that looks like, as the child can
only see one letter at a time with a magnifier. After speaking with my
husband and I, the parents are getting serious about getting their child
some good braille training.
Also, I
have seen figures that state in this country that out of the blind persons
who are competitively employed, approximately 90% read using braille. The
earlier one is exposed to braille, no matter how young or level of visual
acuity, the better.
"If you can read, you can lead."
Can you tell, I am a proponent
of braille. :)
Judy
-----Original
Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of adrijana
prokopenko via
blindtlk
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018
12:19 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: adrijana prokopenko
Subject: [Blindtlk] Braille
What do you consider great when it comes to introducing, promoting and
using braille and what would you use to encourage the future generations
to do so and for some special ed teachers and the public to realize that
braille is as important as print and should be viewed as such.
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59
%40gmail.co
m
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/annely53r%4
0yahoo.com
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59
%40gmail.co
m
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/advocate%40
earthlink.n
et
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/jasmine.kot
say%40gmail.com
_______________________________________________
blindtlk mailing list
blindtlk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blindtlk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail
.com
More information about the BlindTlk
mailing list