[blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

kate02 at bellsouth.net kate02 at bellsouth.net
Wed Oct 29 18:50:22 UTC 2008 

I just don’t believe its that simple.  Children have personalities just like adults their not a blank slate or out to make parents miserable.

I just think that’s a sad way to think about children, their not dogs their people and some are nice and others aren’t.

Kate
  
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>
> Children would always have to be taught.  They are born selfish and 
> self-centered.  The problem is we all fight that for the rest of our lives, 
> but thankfully many of us outgrow it enough to help the children learn.
> Barbara
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:28 AM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> 
> > Interesting choice of words, "taking parents by the throat" so you can
> > teach"the children how to get along".
> > Maybe if adults got along without violence, kids wouldn't need to be
> > "taught" anything?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:48 PM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >
> > Unfortunately you have a point there.  I just don't want the school to
> > teach morals and values.  I have no problem with them teaching manners.
> > I know most of the stuff schools are teaching is because parents are
> > lacking in their roles as teachers.  I'd like to take those parents by
> > the throat and tell them that I wouldn't have to bother with teaching
> > your kids about just plain respect for others if they would just use
> > common sense and teach the children how to get along with folks.  I love
> > how some parents don't want the school to teach things they think they
> > should learn at home but then the parents think they can learn
> > everything through osmosis.
> > What happened to, "If you get in trouble at school, you'll be in twice
> > as much when you get home."  It still works on today's children.  I've a
> > son's behavior that can prove it.
> > Barbara
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:39 AM
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >
> >> My sister teaches kindergarten.  I'm sure she would agree that most
> >> in-service days are essentially wasted.  However, parents, as well as
> >> teachers, are tough to deal with.  My sister had one student in her
> >> class who was going around kicking the other kids.  She asked his
> >> parents to quit letting him wear cowboy boots to school before he
> >> really hurt somebody, and they said his behavior was her fault because
> >
> >> she wasn't keeping the little brat busy enough, or challenging him
> >> enough.  Another time, a group of parents got mad at her for asking
> >> the students each to put a chair up on the tables as they were leaving
> >
> >> for the day.  The parents said that was the janitor's job, and their
> >> children weren't growing up to be janitors.  My sister got marked down
> >
> >> on a year-end evaluation for making the kids say "please" and "thank
> >> you" in her classroom, because some parents said that teaching manners
> >
> >> wasn't up to her and whether their kids said "please" and "thank you"
> >> was a personal decision.  She said to go ahead and mark her down every
> >
> >> year then, because kids needed to learn some social graces, and she
> >> didn't want to have a classroom full of monkeys.  But that's the kind
> >> of stuff she deals with in public school.
> >>
> >> Jo Elizabeth
> >>
> >> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself. To take
> >> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work. Take care
> >> of what you are doing. Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:45 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >>
> >>
> >>> this is why my niece stopped being a teacher.  she said too many
> >>> parents and the private school body expected her to teach the
> >>> children manners, how to use a tissue to blow noses and the other
> >>> stuff you mentioned. As far as the inservice days, i always wondered
> >>> what in the world they learn every Wednesday, "their inservice day."
> >>> v
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> >>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:05 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Just look at how much time the teachers spend learning mostly
> >>>> worthless things during inservice time that is during the school day
> >
> >>>> when the children should be at school.  Also look at some of the
> >>>> things they're teaching instead of reading, writing and arithmetic.
> >
> >>>> For goodness sake, why are the children learning about political
> >>>> correctness and ethics and morals?
> >>>> Isn't
> >>>> teaching morals and ethics our job as a parent?  First and foremost,
> >
> >>>> I want the school to help me make my child knowledgeable.  I don't
> >>>> want them teaching my child how to be a citizen of the world.
> >>>> I'll get off my soapbox before I offend even more people than I've
> >>>> already offended so far.  Sorry in advance,it's just what I think.
> >>>> |Barbara
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:41 PM
> >>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hard to believe that this country ranks last in education!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
> >>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org Date
> >>>>>>sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:06:09 -0600
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Congratulations on your first teacher conference.  I am weird, I
> >>>>> really love
> >>>>>>going and findout what kinds of stuff the kids are doing.  when i
> >>>>> used to
> >>>>>>volunteer in Gab's class I used to see what they were doing from
> >>>>> week to
> >>>>>>week.  This is the first year the teacher didn't need or want me
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>>>class, so next week we're going to the parent teacher conference
> >>>>> and I can't
> >>>>>>wait to see what's happening.  I know that Gab is doing well,
> >>>>> bringing home
> >>>>>>90's and 100's on her spelling tests.  Boy they had big words for
> >>>>> third
> >>>>>>graders today- excitability, gingerbread, generation, celebrate,
> >>>>> forceps,
> >>>>>>circular, centimeter, there is more, but ican't remember the
> >>>>> list.  V
> >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>From: "Eileen" <eileenlevin at comcast.net
> >>>>>>To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org
> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:41 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>I just had my first parent teacher conference for kindergarten
> >>>>> and I am
> >>>>>>> in shock! The teacher sat for ten minutes just showing us all
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> material the class
> >>>>>>> has covered in the first 4 weeks of class.  They are expected to
> >>>>> know all
> >>>>>>> the letter names and sounds, rhyming,  write their name, and
> >>>>> other
> >>>>>>> things that
> >>>>>>> I can't even remember now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Each child is working on a monthly calendar,  personal essays
> >>>>> and they
> >>>>>>> not only discuss activities they form sentences about it as a
> >>>>> group on
> >>>>>>> the board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wow! When I was working with Asher on learning to read I had no
> >>>>> idea
> >>>>>>> that he would be using all those skills  immediately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> All the preschool told me was that he needed to work on lower
> >>>>> case
> >>>>>>> letters so I went out and bought a set of lowercase letter tiles
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>> office depo.  We
> >>>>>>> used the tiles to make words and play junior scrabble.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I was a kid, if I covered the entire alphabet in
> >>>>> kindergarten it
> >>>>>>> was a major achievement.  phew
> >>>>>>> Eileen
> >>>>>
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