[blparent] calcium truth and legend was: Re: (no subject)

Thu Feb 12 07:16:52 UTC 2009

Hi, o boy, where to start here.
At the beginning I think.
The opening paragraph of my message clearly acknowledges the right of all to 
express opinions and acknowledges this lists rather wonderful tolerance of 
such opinions, apparently not shared by yourself.
The rest of this message is an out and out flame which hopefully will be 
dealt with in due course, perhaps when you reread this post you will 
consider it so and you may wish to apologize.
However where in my post apart from my suggestion you proofread, is there a 
put down of you at all.
Nowhere have I discredited you, nor would I.\
Nowhere have I stated that anything you do is wrong and btw, just because I 
disagree with you does not make me right and you wrong or vice 
versa.fortunately, I do not care what you think of my parenting although to 
express your views on it publically as you have done should contravene the 
list rules, I suspect it does not, lucky for you.
As it turns out the original poster is lactose intolerant so both our advice 
is valid in her case.
Lastly, you say you can site studies but you never do.
There is no data whatsoever in your posts and saying you can do so but not 
doing so is no proof.
What is a repitual person?
In closing, if I really did think so little of myself that I needed to 
disagree with you simply to do so I would not do it on list nor would I have 
been your friend for as long as I thought I had been.\Apparently friendship 
is not as important as opinion in your case, that's a shame.
Most of us have many friends we can actively disagree with.
In this case, unfortunately I wasn't even disagreeing with you, just showing 
my research and pointing out flaws in your arguments, something you were 
quite welcome to do in return, logical debate provides knowledge.
Attempts to offend like the below, provide nothing.
Perhaps your pregnancy is making you a little hormonal, I know my has as I'm 
sure Paul and others would attest to, if that's the case then you are 
excused, *grin*.
Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amber Boggs" <amberboggs at socal.rr.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] calcium truth and legend was: Re: (no subject)


> Tammy, I am well aware that you will disagree with anything that I say 
> simply because you do not like my hands off AMA aproach. I can show 
> studies and from very repitual people to back up my claims and advice. I 
> do not speek out my ass, and just because you do not like the fact that I 
> do not fiew doctors and medical people as god, does nto mean that you need 
> to bash me or my views.
>>From now on I will post my advice to the person asking for it. I do not
> always need you always disagreeing just because you would like to somehow 
> discredit me simply because you do not like my medical choices. Quite 
> frainkly, I think much of what you choose to do is wrong, and very 
> unhealthey etc. But I do nto bash you, I do not put you down, and I let 
> you do your own thing as wrong as I believe it to be.
> For your information Many of what I find and use comes from valid medical 
> schools and or instatutions. From now on I will ither not post on this 
> list, or I will just posst it off list to the person. ANd I will no longer 
> read your posts as maybe you will not feel the need to put me down.
> Enough is enough
> Amber Boggs
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: [blparent] calcium truth and legend was: Re: (no subject)
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok, much of the below is completely untrue. First let me say that 
>> everyone is entitled to and of course here encouraged to share opinions 
>> and this is fine when they are just that, opinions.
>> However, much of the below, while stated as fact, is anything but.
>>
>> firstly, the dreaded enemy milk.
>> Milk is in fact often a woman's saviour.
>> Before trying calcium supplements see below.
>> Most nutritionists will tell you that if you can use a natural source of 
>> a given element, almost no matter what it is, over a supplement, you 
>> should do so.
>> Far from being the cause of indigestion, it often eases it, indigestion 
>> is very often the cause of the dreaded pregnancy related heart burn that 
>> many of us experience and a glass of milk when you have heartburn will 
>> very often ease it completely.
>> Now for calcium supplements.
>> The problem with calcium is that it is only absorbed into the body in the 
>> presence of magnesium, this is why low fat milks are no longer touted as 
>> necessarily a good remedy for osteoporosis, the truth is they just don't 
>> work.
>> If your calcium supplement does not contain magnesium, you are being sold 
>> a pup and in many supplements particularly so called health supplements 
>> this is very much the case.
>> They just don't do what they say.
>> Which brings us to the studies   not really actually quoted below.
>> The British medical journal:
>> http://www.bmj.com
>> published a study in think late 1994, but don't quote me on the year, 
>> which showed that studies that convincingly demonstrated 1 product as 
>> being notably  superior to all others on the market were often flawed and 
>> investigation revealed that many of these studies are not in fact 
>> independent.
>> Without knowing the actual study sighted below it's impossible to say 
>> whether this fits.
>> Caution: if you are allergic to or intolerant to milk, then of course a 
>> calcium supplement is by far your best bet but expensive is not 
>> necessarily better.
>> Also, beware of posts like the below that make all traditional medicine 
>> practitioners such as doctors, nutritionist, etc, out to be this evil 
>> conspiracy group.
>> In general these opinions are flawed also.
>> In fact the so called natural health sector is far more likely to contain 
>> fraudulent practitioners as it is very difficult to regulate and has 
>> always been under regulated way back to the sellers of snake oils.
>> Many supplements are just that, snake oil by another name, be very 
>> careful, and read labels whenever possible to make sure that along with 
>> calcium your supplement has a magnesium component in it.
>> Note: amber, you may wish to spell check or at least proof read your 
>> messages before sending, especially when stating supposed facts,  for 
>> example, calcium, c, a, l, c, i, u, m.
>> For those of you having heart burn issues etc, don't give up on dairy 
>> just yet, while the jury is definitely out on the below, there is a huge 
>> body of evidence to suggest milk is very good for you druing and 
>> immediately after pregnancy.
>> Hth.
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Amber Boggs" <amberboggs at socal.rr.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] (no subject)
>>
>>
>>> Here is the deal with calsiam. Yes milk has some in it, about 300 
>>> Milagrams in hole milk. However pregnant wiman need way more then that 
>>> each day. Milk is a commen cause of sickness and digestion problems in 
>>> Preggnant wimin, so many wimin stay clear of milk. There are other 
>>> sorces of calsiam, but the best thing you can do is take a really good 
>>> calsiam. The best on the market that is the most obzorbibale is made by 
>>> standard process. They are a bit pricy, but well werth it. They have 
>>> done studies to show the benafits of lots of calsiam durrign preggnancy, 
>>> and it can help with alot of problems. The only reasons I drink millk is 
>>> to drink the way. Otherwise I don't really drink milk ever. But I always 
>>> take the standard process, and am always very healthy.
>>>
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