[blparent] The maid wants to go on strike!

[David Andrews]

Veronica and everybody, please drop it, with one more message you 
keep it up.  I know it wasn't intentional, but drop means drop.

Dave

At 09:43 PM 6/9/2012, you wrote:
>Personally, I think this topic has gone on way too long and  you included
>should just drop it.  You know, if she doesn't want to pick up after her son
>or step son  or who ever, it's okay that she mentioned it.  That's what this
>list is for.  It is however a blind parent issue.
>What I started doing is before I sent an email to anyone, I make sure it
>doesn't sound like I am attacking them.  My husband says that of course you
>can't know what someone meant or hear their voice, but you can read the
>message and if there words are there accusing, that is how we take it.
>Gabe, you seem to be a smart man and you are a good dad, so be a good
>friend!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Gabe Vega
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 3:03 PM
>To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [blparent] The maid wants to go on strike!
>
>its been my experience that people who complain about stuff like that are
>frankly filled with envy. also, I mentioned it to raise a point of the
>contrast in how we were dressed. I'm sure anyone looking at the email
>objectively would have seen that.
>Gabe Vega - Sent from my Macbook Air
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>
>On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Jo Elizabeth Pinto wrote:
>
> > Glad it wasn't just me who felt that way.
> >
> > Jo Elizabeth
> >
> > "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has
> > a song."  Maya Angelou
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:07 PM
> > To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] The maid wants to go on strike!
> >
> >>       Gabe, why do you mention the price of your suit? What are you
>trying to prove. You would have done better had you say "AndI was dressed
>nicely" without mentioning the price. That was tasteless.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:56 PM
> >> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [blparent] The maid wants to go on strike!
> >>
> >> I just went through this at my son's graduation. My 11 year old daughter
>took some scissors and cut holes on the knees of her pants. to look like the
>other little girls and people she sees that wear the new style of pants
>these days. they are holes with a shredded look to them.
> >>
> >> Well anyways, I wore a suit and Tie about a $500.00 dollar get up to my
>son's once in a life time Kindar Garden graduation and I was walking around
>with my daughter and these holy pants. and when I found out a world of
>embarrassment went over me and I was shocked and didn't know what to do. so
>I know how this feels, kids some times do the weirdest things.
> >> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Macbook Air
> >> Phone Voice/Text: (623) 565-9357
> >> Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/blindtech
> >> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/blindtech
> >> Website: http://thebt.net
> >>
> >> On Jun 6, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Jennifer Jackson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jo Elizabeth,
> >>>
> >>> I think you have touched on a point here that is particular to being
> >>> a blind parent. When our children go out badly dressed people assume
> >>> that it is because those poor pitiful children have blind parents
> >>> who can not provide for them. Yes, we can all say that we should not
> >>> care what other people think, but that is nonsense. We, just like
> >>> everyone else, are part of the social contract and there are
> >>> consequences to ignoring the standards of that contract. It really
> >>> is a big deal if the people in our child's school think he is being
> >>> neglected. Often these are consequences that a child is not mature
> >>> enough to understand or respond too. That being said, my pride is an
>issue here too.
> >>>
> >>> It may comfort you to know Jo Elizabeth that that torn clothing look
> >>> seems to be a thing. I recently had to explain to my son that the
> >>> shirt he has with the arms torn out is acceptable, just barely, to
> >>> meet the you must where clothes at home standard, but it is not ok
> >>> to wear out of our yard. Of course the fact that he sees other
> >>> adults at the store dressed in the same kind of shirt with pajama
> >>> pants on, or their underwear showing, does not help support my
> >>> point. The no hat or coat fashion requirement is also baffling to
> >>> me. It is apparently more important to look right than it is to not
> >>> be cold, which just supports my earlier point about logical
> >>> consequences. :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jennifer
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 1:42 PM
> >>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [blparent] The maid wants to go on strike!
> >>>
> >>>> Rebecca, what if the child does not care if his clothes are dirty?
> >>>> What if he is perfectly willing to go around in dirty clothes? I
> >>>> know it is summer time now, but my oldest son would go to school in
> >>>> dirty clothes. I have to have someone sighted go through his
> >>>> clothes occasionally and pull out things with stains because he
> >>>> will just wear them that way.
> >>>>
> >>> Well, maybe he needs to miss opportunities he'd get if he dressed
> >>> appropriately, being passed over for a date or a volunteer thing or a
>job.
> >>>
> >>> There is a difference between clothes that stink and stains. I'm not
> >>> clear which one you're dealing with.
> >>>
> >>> Truthfully, I've taken to asking Stephen before we go anywhere if he
> >>> has clothes on that aren't torn.  The last time I didn't ask, he
> >>> wore a shirt that had one sleeve ripped off and jeans that looked
> >>> like they'd been through a crocodile attack.  An older man from my
> >>> church asked me privately if I needed money to get my kids decent
> >>> clothes, which was totally embarrassing.  Seriously, the next week,
> >>> the man and his wife brought a bag to me of stuff they'd bought at
> >>> Target, for both Stephen and Sarah, as if I couldn't provide for them.
> >>>
> >>> Jo Elizabeth