[blparent] Questions on how to clip fingers/toe nails

[Myriam D. Cruz]

Hi, I have been blind for two years and am also faced with the opportunity and challenge of doing things for my daughter for the first time. I suggest you cut his nails right after he has bathed  and use a very small clipper. Put on a tv show that he really likes and try it out. 
I am rooting for you.

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>   1. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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>   2. Re: Potty training (Siera Ray)
>   3. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Dianna Alley)
>   4. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Dianna Alley)
>   5. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Jeri Milton)
>   6. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Jeri Milton)
>   7. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Steve Jacobson)
>   8. Re: Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails (Jeri Milton)
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> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:47:41 -0700
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> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
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> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting his nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think because I am going to do what I feel safe doing  for my child sighted people do not do everything for their children either such as education most sighted folks send kids to school their fore they are not doing everything for their children and they also work so some one else is caring for the children why they are not around.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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>> 
>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have really relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would say if you are comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am serious. He won't cut himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it once, he wouldn't do it again. where is dad, why doesn't he cut the nails.
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>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl <motherkubehl at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe nails.
>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip them.
>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we don't do that anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
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>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of its children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally reference how Jesus treated his disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated, fishermen. He never yelled, hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know and love the Lord with their entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, loving teachings. That is how I want to parent my children."
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> From: "Siera Ray" <sieradream at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training
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> I'm already trying to take precautions in that regard. Ayla's only five 
> weeks and she gets a bath every night. I always wait until she's had her 
> after-feeding poo-splosion for that part of the night. LOL So far, so good. 
> I'm hoping to avoid the yuck in the tub if at all possible.
> 
> Si
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Melissa Ann Riccobono" <melissa at riccobono.us>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training
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> 
>> Actually, this is pretty common. Yes, it is the warmth of the water and 
>> also
>> the relaxation many kids feel in the tub. Not having her linger in the tub
>> is probably a good idea. You could also try to give her a bath after she's
>> through with number two for the day... Might not work well, I know. 
>> Friends
>> of ours used to put a swimmer diaper on their son in the tub just in case.
>> It is definitely gross! Both of my older kids have done this. Luckily it 
>> has
>> not become a regular occurrence.
>> Melissa
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri 
>> Milton
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:02 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training
>> 
>> Hehehe, Jo Elizabeth, you made me laugh with the visual of you with a
>> sticker in your hair or rear. Even though I have no clue what you look 
>> like.
>> I just imagine Kate doing that to me, and she probably would do it.
>> 
>> Another little problem I'm having with Miss Kate is she keeps going potty
>> (number 2) in the bath. It's making me crazy! I think it has something to 
>> do
>> with the warmth of the water or something. So now, I don't allow her to 
>> have
>> any toys in the bath until she stops doing it. Dylan only did that one 
>> time
>> and he phreaked out and never did it again. Kate does it and then calmly
>> tells me she would like to get out of the tub. It took a while for me to
>> catch on. It's so gross! Have you heard of this happening before? At her
>> next doctor's appointment I'm going to ask about it.
>> 
>> Jeri
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jo
>> Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:33 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training
>> 
>> Each kid is different.  My daughter never gave two hoots about the 
>> stickers
>> and charts.  Half the time, she'd stick the sticker on me without me
>> knowing, and I'd walk around with it on my butt or in my hair for hours
>> before I discovered it.  Her thing was that she wanted to go to preschool,
>> and I wouldn't sign her up till she was trained because I wasn't about to
>> pay the extra fees for the class that still had diapering available.  Once
>> she figured that out, it clicked in less than two weeks.  Before that, she
>> just wasn't ready.
>> 
>> Jo Elizabeth
>> 
>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
>> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
>> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Jeri Milton
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:06 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training
>> 
>> Hi.
>> With my son, the sticker potty chart that hung right next to the potty
>> worked great. He got a special sticker every time he used the potty. When 
>> he
>> started to use the potty for both types of pottying jobs, he would earn 
>> two
>> stickers. At the end of the row he would get candy. Bad for the teeth, but
>> hey it worked. Also, his first pair of underwear had Spider Man on them.
>> They were very special to him. The first time he went potty in his 
>> underwear
>> I said, "oh no, you pottied on Spider Man." He never had another accident.
>> 
>> With Kate, now she's been a bit more difficult. She's potty trained of
>> course, she's almost four, but it's been a real ordeal with her. She likes
>> earning stickers, but if she doesn't earn one it doesn't bother her much.
>> She's always sorry if she has an accident on the princesses or Minnie 
>> Mouse,
>> but she just tells me to wash them please. She still has accidents, but 
>> I'm
>> trying to be patient. Good luck to you.
>> 
>> Jeri
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Myriam D.
>> Cruz
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:02 PM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] Potty training
>> 
>> Hi all, Iwuld like your input on potty.  training a very reluctant baby
>> girl. I have tried the potty training book as well as special potty seats
>> but to no avaiil yet.   Would you please share your ideas?
>> 
>> 
>> thanks
>> Myriam
>> 
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>>>  1. Re: cradle cap and stuff (Veronica Smith)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:02:11 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
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>>> I'll tell my friend about the mineral oil and petroleum jelly.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of JA
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:47 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi Veronica,
>>> 
>>> Some home remedies by Mayo clinic:
>>> Gently rub your baby's scalp with your fingers or washcloth to loosen the
>>> scales.
>>> Wash your baby's hair once a day with mild baby shampoo. Loosen the 
>>> scales
>>> with a small, soft-bristled brush before rinsing off the shampoo.
>>> If the scales don't loosen easily, rub petroleum jelly or a few drops of
>>> mineral oil onto your baby's scalp. Let it soak into the scales for a few
>>> minutes, and then brush and shampoo your baby's hair as usual.
>>> If you leave the oil in your baby's hair, the scales may accumulate and
>>> worsen the cradle cap.
>>> Once the scales are gone, wash your baby's hair every few days with a 
>>> mild
>>> shampoo to prevent scale buildup.
>>> 
>>> Btw, if the baby is allergic to Olive oil, how about other types of oil?
>>> 
>>> On 1/10/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new
>>>> friend who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.
>>>> Her mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly
>>>> area and it turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in
>>>> hives all over her little head and face.
>>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9
>> weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson
>>>> Blue in a quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball
>>>> on the scaly area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
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>>> JA
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>> they
>>> can do. You can go as far as your mind lets you. What you believe,
>> remember,
>>> you can achieve." by Mary Kay Ash
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:03:23 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
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>>> She said that when her baby reaches up, she draws blood.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:16 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> My Dylan had it really bad when he was a new born as well. I would coat 
>>> it
>>> with baby oil, then use a fine baby comb to gently comb over the area and
>> it
>>> would lift out. I did this at least twice a day until it cleared up. She
>>> should definitely keep it coated with something, because it's so dry and
>>> scaly. Dylan's was anyway. It looked down right painful. Also, my best
>>> friend who is a nanny and works with new bourns all the time said to wash
>>> the hair every day without a doubt and really rub the area with your
>>> fingers. Gently course. Smile. It's a pain I know. Kate never had it 
>>> thank
>>> goodness.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:05:00 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
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>>> Melissa, she used the olive oil and her baby was allergic to it.  She
>> broke
>>> out in hives all over her head and face.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa
>> Ann
>>> Riccobono
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:40 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Our Elizabeth had this for a while. My pediatrician suggested using olive
>>> oil, and it worked great. I poured a little olive oil on her wet head,
>>> massaged it in with my fingers, then gently tried to loosen the dry stuff
>>> and get it off of her scalp. Then I rinced her hair with water, put on 
>>> the
>>> head to toe wash I used for shampoo, massaged that in, tried to loosen
>> more
>>> dry skin, then wrinced that off. With this treatment, the cradle cap went
>>> away in maybe two or three days.
>>> Good luck.
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:16 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> My Dylan had it really bad when he was a new born as well. I would coat 
>>> it
>>> with baby oil, then use a fine baby comb to gently comb over the area and
>> it
>>> would lift out. I did this at least twice a day until it cleared up. She
>>> should definitely keep it coated with something, because it's so dry and
>>> scaly. Dylan's was anyway. It looked down right painful. Also, my best
>>> friend who is a nanny and works with new bourns all the time said to wash
>>> the hair every day without a doubt and really rub the area with your
>>> fingers. Gently course. Smile. It's a pain I know. Kate never had it 
>>> thank
>>> goodness.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:06:24 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
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>>> She was using baby oil and her pediatrician told her not to as it isn't
>> good
>>> for baby's hair and scalp.  That wa why she switched.  Kind of stuck
>> between
>>> a rock and a hard place.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa
>> Ann
>>> Riccobono
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:42 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Oops.... Sorry for my last post. I'm reading emails backward and I didn't
>>> realize the baby was allergic to olive oil! That is too bad! I hope the
>> baby
>>> oil will help.
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:08:18 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <001801cdf1eb$42f714f0$c8e53ed0$@net>
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>>> 
>>> It's a learning experience for them.  Invite them out to watch the kids,
>>> however, make sure they close their eyes so they can see what you see.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:23 AM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kate got a little Strawberry Shortcake Bike from Santa this year.
>> Yesterday
>>> I was out front with her while she rode it up and down the side walk. It
>> was
>>> just her and I, as my husband couldn't handle the cold weather we're
>> having
>>> here in Phoenix. Smile. Anyway, my neighbor pulled up and noticed it was
>>> just Kate and myself. He says to her "Katlyn, how can you ride your bike
>>> with just your mom watching you? You could sneak off and she wouldn't 
>>> know
>>> it." I smiled and kindly said, "No, she knows better than that." He 
>>> didn't
>>> say anything after that. Another time that same neighbors wife saw me out
>>> front with Dylan. He was playing with sidewalk chalk and I was setting in
>> a
>>> chair in the driveway. We live on the corner so I had my lawn chair at 
>>> the
>>> end up the drive way, sort of letting him know that he couldn't go past
>> me.
>>> My neighbor came out and asked me if I was pretending to watch him. Hmm,
>>> people are funny aren't they? I really like my neighbors too, I guess
>>> they'll just have to get use to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:08:19 -0500
>>> From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> try aquifir, i dout that's how its spelled but they have it at
>>> walgreens and stuff, its for diaper rashes and things, btu it worked a
>>> charm on my babies cradel cap, breast milk can work too, as crazy as
>>> that sounds!
>>> 
>>> On 1/13/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>>> I'll tell my friend about the mineral oil and petroleum jelly.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of JA
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:47 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> Some home remedies by Mayo clinic:
>>>> Gently rub your baby's scalp with your fingers or washcloth to loosen 
>>>> the
>>>> scales.
>>>> Wash your baby's hair once a day with mild baby shampoo. Loosen the
>> scales
>>>> with a small, soft-bristled brush before rinsing off the shampoo.
>>>> If the scales don't loosen easily, rub petroleum jelly or a few drops of
>>>> mineral oil onto your baby's scalp. Let it soak into the scales for a 
>>>> few
>>>> minutes, and then brush and shampoo your baby's hair as usual.
>>>> If you leave the oil in your baby's hair, the scales may accumulate and
>>>> worsen the cradle cap.
>>>> Once the scales are gone, wash your baby's hair every few days with a
>> mild
>>>> shampoo to prevent scale buildup.
>>>> 
>>>> Btw, if the baby is allergic to Olive oil, how about other types of oil?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/10/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new
>>>>> friend who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.
>>>>> Her mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly
>>>>> area and it turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in
>>>>> hives all over her little head and face.
>>>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9
>>>>> weeks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson
>>>>> Blue in a quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball
>>>>> on the scaly area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you
>>>> JA
>>>> "Don't limit yourself. Many people limit themselves to what they think
>> they
>>>> can do. You can go as far as your mind lets you. What you believe,
>>>> remember,
>>>> you can achieve." by Mary Kay Ash
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:11:05 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <001901cdf1eb$a573f120$f05bd360$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> Jo Elizabeth, that's exactly what we were talking about in our NFB 
>>> meeting
>>> yesterday.  Annoying statements that obviously degrade us.  But if we get
>>> defensive at these uneducated statemens, we aren't teaching them 
>>> anything.
>>> Just showing them we are rude.  I vent inside but in their face, I say
>>> things like,"I watch with my ears, do you want to try it?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jo
>>> Elizabeth Pinto
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:03 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Those remarks would annoy me, but they're probably not worth making an
>> issue
>>> over with your neighbors.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you 
>>> may
>> 
>>> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
>>> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Jeri Milton
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:22 AM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kate got a little Strawberry Shortcake Bike from Santa this year.
>> Yesterday
>>> I was out front with her while she rode it up and down the side walk. It
>> was
>>> just her and I, as my husband couldn't handle the cold weather we're
>> having
>>> here in Phoenix. Smile. Anyway, my neighbor pulled up and noticed it was
>>> just Kate and myself. He says to her "Katlyn, how can you ride your bike
>>> with just your mom watching you? You could sneak off and she wouldn't 
>>> know
>>> it." I smiled and kindly said, "No, she knows better than that." He 
>>> didn't
>>> say anything after that. Another time that same neighbors wife saw me out
>>> front with Dylan. He was playing with sidewalk chalk and I was setting in
>> a
>>> chair in the driveway. We live on the corner so I had my lawn chair at 
>>> the
>>> end up the drive way, sort of letting him know that he couldn't go past
>> me.
>>> My neighbor came out and asked me if I was pretending to watch him. Hmm,
>>> people are funny aren't they? I really like my neighbors too, I guess
>>> they'll just have to get use to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
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>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:17:54 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <001a01cdf1ec$991887f0$cb4997d0$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> But the sighted, uneducated, do not know that.  They don't say things 
>>> like
>>> this to be rude
>>> They say it because they don't know any other way besides using their
>> eyes.
>>> It makes perfect sense to them, if you can't see, how can you watch?
>>> Unfortunately, we are always going to be the educator, never having a
>> break
>>> from it.  We can only let our defenses down in the privacy of our own
>> home.
>>> But when we are out in public, we must  have our teacher's cap on.
>>> We must make others understand that we can do it.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jodie 
>>> and
>>> Kahlan
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:35 PM
>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Those remarksw would annoy me, too, especially the part about pretending
>> to
>>> watch. In the only way you can, you are watching him.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Hugs from Jodie and kahlan
>>> "Only a fool walks into the future backward."
>>> Terry Goodkind
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>>> 
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:29:17 -0700
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> Message-ID: <BLU172-DS8238015A8C5EFD40A7554AC2E0 at phx.gbl>
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>>>   reply-type=original
>>> 
>>> I had forgotten about breastmilk, but I did use it as a rinse before
>>> shampooing and it seemed to ease the itchiness of the cradle cap, as well
>> as
>>> loosening the scales.
>>> 
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you 
>>> may
>> 
>>> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
>>> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Jessica Pitzer
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:08 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> try aquifir, i dout that's how its spelled but they have it at
>>> walgreens and stuff, its for diaper rashes and things, btu it worked a
>>> charm on my babies cradel cap, breast milk can work too, as crazy as
>>> that sounds!
>>> 
>>> On 1/13/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>>> I'll tell my friend about the mineral oil and petroleum jelly.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of JA
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:47 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> Some home remedies by Mayo clinic:
>>>> Gently rub your baby's scalp with your fingers or washcloth to loosen 
>>>> the
>>>> scales.
>>>> Wash your baby's hair once a day with mild baby shampoo. Loosen the
>>>> scales
>>>> with a small, soft-bristled brush before rinsing off the shampoo.
>>>> If the scales don't loosen easily, rub petroleum jelly or a few drops of
>>>> mineral oil onto your baby's scalp. Let it soak into the scales for a 
>>>> few
>>>> minutes, and then brush and shampoo your baby's hair as usual.
>>>> If you leave the oil in your baby's hair, the scales may accumulate and
>>>> worsen the cradle cap.
>>>> Once the scales are gone, wash your baby's hair every few days with a
>>>> mild
>>>> shampoo to prevent scale buildup.
>>>> 
>>>> Btw, if the baby is allergic to Olive oil, how about other types of oil?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/10/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new
>>>>> friend who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.
>>>>> Her mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly
>>>>> area and it turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in
>>>>> hives all over her little head and face.
>>>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9
>>>>> weeks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson
>>>>> Blue in a quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball
>>>>> on the scaly area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you
>>>> JA
>>>> "Don't limit yourself. Many people limit themselves to what they think
>>>> they
>>>> can do. You can go as far as your mind lets you. What you believe,
>>>> remember,
>>>> you can achieve." by Mary Kay Ash
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:41:14 -0700
>>> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> Message-ID: <000001cdf200$9f29c910$dd7d5b30$@cox.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> Oh, pour baby. She definitely needs to keep it soft and work it out with 
>>> a
>>> baby comb. Dylan had it horribly too. It went clear back to the middle of
>>> his head. It took a while to clear it up, constantly working it out.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:03 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> She said that when her baby reaches up, she draws blood.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:16 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> My Dylan had it really bad when he was a new born as well. I would coat 
>>> it
>>> with baby oil, then use a fine baby comb to gently comb over the area and
>> it
>>> would lift out. I did this at least twice a day until it cleared up. She
>>> should definitely keep it coated with something, because it's so dry and
>>> scaly. Dylan's was anyway. It looked down right painful. Also, my best
>>> friend who is a nanny and works with new bourns all the time said to wash
>>> the hair every day without a doubt and really rub the area with your
>>> fingers. Gently course. Smile. It's a pain I know. Kate never had it 
>>> thank
>>> goodness.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:45:18 -0700
>>> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> Message-ID: <000101cdf201$308d2d20$91a78760$@cox.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> Her pediatrician should be able to give the baby something for it. I 
>>> would
>>> be afraid to try any oils too after her allergic reaction. I wonder what
>> it
>>> was about the olive oil that made her break out. Olive oil is usually
>> great
>>> stuff. My husband calls it the nectar of the Gods.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:05 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Melissa, she used the olive oil and her baby was allergic to it.  She
>> broke
>>> out in hives all over her head and face.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa
>> Ann
>>> Riccobono
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:40 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Our Elizabeth had this for a while. My pediatrician suggested using olive
>>> oil, and it worked great. I poured a little olive oil on her wet head,
>>> massaged it in with my fingers, then gently tried to loosen the dry stuff
>>> and get it off of her scalp. Then I rinced her hair with water, put on 
>>> the
>>> head to toe wash I used for shampoo, massaged that in, tried to loosen
>> more
>>> dry skin, then wrinced that off. With this treatment, the cradle cap went
>>> away in maybe two or three days.
>>> Good luck.
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:16 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> My Dylan had it really bad when he was a new born as well. I would coat 
>>> it
>>> with baby oil, then use a fine baby comb to gently comb over the area and
>> it
>>> would lift out. I did this at least twice a day until it cleared up. She
>>> should definitely keep it coated with something, because it's so dry and
>>> scaly. Dylan's was anyway. It looked down right painful. Also, my best
>>> friend who is a nanny and works with new bourns all the time said to wash
>>> the hair every day without a doubt and really rub the area with your
>>> fingers. Gently course. Smile. It's a pain I know. Kate never had it 
>>> thank
>>> goodness.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:48:42 -0700
>>> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> Message-ID: <000201cdf201$aa6ef560$ff4ce020$@cox.net>
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>>> 
>>> Was the baby oil working for the cradle cap though? It really worked for
>> Dyl
>>> and his scalp and hair were just fine after washing the oil out. Just
>>> saying, if it helped the cradle cap then it may have been worth it. What
>> do
>>> I know though? I'm not the doctor right? I sure hope she can get it
>> cleared
>>> up soon. Keep us posted ok.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:06 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> She was using baby oil and her pediatrician told her not to as it isn't
>> good
>>> for baby's hair and scalp.  That wa why she switched.  Kind of stuck
>> between
>>> a rock and a hard place.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa
>> Ann
>>> Riccobono
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:42 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Oops.... Sorry for my last post. I'm reading emails backward and I didn't
>>> realize the baby was allergic to olive oil! That is too bad! I hope the
>> baby
>>> oil will help.
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:14 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] cradle cap and stuff
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, obviously I am not asking for myself but I have a new friend
>>> who has a new baby girl and her baby has severe cradle cap.  Her
>>> mother-in-love told her to put a bit of olive oil on the scaly area and 
>>> it
>>> turned out the baby was allergic to it.  She broke out in hives all over
>> her
>>> little head and face.
>>> The Dr told her they couldn't give her anything since she is only 9 
>>> weeks.
>> 
>>> The pharmacist suggested that she put about a tablespoon of Selson Blue 
>>> in
>> a
>>> quart bottle, fill it with water and dab with a cotton ball on the scaly
>>> area.  She hasn't tried that yet, kind of gun shy.
>>> Do you all have any ideas for her?
>>> Veronica
>>> 
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>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:54:31 -0700
>>> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <000301cdf202$7a24f070$6e6ed150$@cox.net>
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>>> 
>>> Hi V.
>>> That's a good idea. So, do you ever come across these types of 
>>> situations?
>> I
>>> mean even if your just shopping in the grocery store? For some reason,
>> I've
>>> developed some real anxiety about it. Not something that's easy for me to
>>> really talk about as it's a bit embarrassing. It's actually held me back
>>> from doing some thing's. I say (it's) held me back, when really I've held
>> me
>>> back. Make sense? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:08 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> It's a learning experience for them.  Invite them out to watch the kids,
>>> however, make sure they close their eyes so they can see what you see.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeri
>> Milton
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:23 AM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kate got a little Strawberry Shortcake Bike from Santa this year.
>> Yesterday
>>> I was out front with her while she rode it up and down the side walk. It
>> was
>>> just her and I, as my husband couldn't handle the cold weather we're
>> having
>>> here in Phoenix. Smile. Anyway, my neighbor pulled up and noticed it was
>>> just Kate and myself. He says to her "Katlyn, how can you ride your bike
>>> with just your mom watching you? You could sneak off and she wouldn't 
>>> know
>>> it." I smiled and kindly said, "No, she knows better than that." He 
>>> didn't
>>> say anything after that. Another time that same neighbors wife saw me out
>>> front with Dylan. He was playing with sidewalk chalk and I was setting in
>> a
>>> chair in the driveway. We live on the corner so I had my lawn chair at 
>>> the
>>> end up the drive way, sort of letting him know that he couldn't go past
>> me.
>>> My neighbor came out and asked me if I was pretending to watch him. Hmm,
>>> people are funny aren't they? I really like my neighbors too, I guess
>>> they'll just have to get use to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeri
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>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:00:09 -0700
>>> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <000401cdf203$438a4050$ca9ec0f0$@cox.net>
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>>> 
>>> V.
>>> That's true. Thank you for putting it that way. I've always had this
>> battle
>>> inside of me, where I just feel like hiding. Now that I have children, 
>>> who
>>> are extremely active and mobile, I want to face the fear. Not saying I've
>>> never faced it, I have, but there are some things that I have an absolute
>>> fear in doing. If anyone would like to email me, I would share some of
>> these
>>> things. I'm embarrassed, but obviously I want help with it or I wouldn't
>>> have brought it up. I like what you said V., you're absolutely right.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:18 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> But the sighted, uneducated, do not know that.  They don't say things 
>>> like
>>> this to be rude They say it because they don't know any other way besides
>>> using their eyes.
>>> It makes perfect sense to them, if you can't see, how can you watch?
>>> Unfortunately, we are always going to be the educator, never having a
>> break
>>> from it.  We can only let our defenses down in the privacy of our own
>> home.
>>> But when we are out in public, we must  have our teacher's cap on.
>>> We must make others understand that we can do it.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jodie 
>>> and
>>> Kahlan
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:35 PM
>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Those remarksw would annoy me, too, especially the part about pretending
>> to
>>> watch. In the only way you can, you are watching him.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Hugs from Jodie and kahlan
>>> "Only a fool walks into the future backward."
>>> Terry Goodkind
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>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:11:09 -0700
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> Message-ID: <BLU172-DS16E96058D8CDE297162BF2AC2E0 at phx.gbl>
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>>> 
>>> I've had to push through my own anxiety about doing things in public, and
>>> what people might think.  It's not that I didn't do it before, but now
>> I've
>>> got a little girl who depends on me to help her build an image of what a
>>> family is, and what a blind mom can do.  So I've had to take a deep
>> breath,
>>> either ignore the comments or address them, and do what I need to do
>> anyway.
>>> In a way, it's been easier because my daughter is very tough and 
>>> outgoing.
>> 
>>> We went to Target and bought the Dora Sing-Along Microphone with some of
>> her
>>> Christmas money tonight, and she turned it on and marched through the
>> store,
>>> singing the songs with Dora and telling everybody she saw--shoppers,
>>> cashiers, and a janitor--why she loved her new microphone so much.  I was
>> a
>>> lot more visible and sociable in the store than I would have been if she
>>> hadn't jumped right in with that new toy.  Mostly, people are
>> well-meaning.
>>> One older shopper said to me, "Well, you'll always know where she's at if
>>> she's got that microphone with her."
>>> 
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you 
>>> may
>> 
>>> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
>>> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Jeri Milton
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:00 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> V.
>>> That's true. Thank you for putting it that way. I've always had this
>> battle
>>> inside of me, where I just feel like hiding. Now that I have children, 
>>> who
>>> are extremely active and mobile, I want to face the fear. Not saying I've
>>> never faced it, I have, but there are some things that I have an absolute
>>> fear in doing. If anyone would like to email me, I would share some of
>> these
>>> things. I'm embarrassed, but obviously I want help with it or I wouldn't
>>> have brought it up. I like what you said V., you're absolutely right.
>>> 
>>> Jeri
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:18 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> But the sighted, uneducated, do not know that.  They don't say things 
>>> like
>>> this to be rude They say it because they don't know any other way besides
>>> using their eyes.
>>> It makes perfect sense to them, if you can't see, how can you watch?
>>> Unfortunately, we are always going to be the educator, never having a
>> break
>>> from it.  We can only let our defenses down in the privacy of our own
>> home.
>>> But when we are out in public, we must  have our teacher's cap on.
>>> We must make others understand that we can do it.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jodie 
>>> and
>>> Kahlan
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:35 PM
>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] People are funny
>>> 
>>> Those remarksw would annoy me, too, especially the part about pretending
>> to
>>> watch. In the only way you can, you are watching him.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Hugs from Jodie and kahlan
>>> "Only a fool walks into the future backward."
>>> Terry Goodkind
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>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:37:30 +1000
>>> From: Stephanie Mitchell <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [blparent] guide dog training
>>> Message-ID: <50f37d91.2789440a.7d65.0192 at mx.google.com>
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>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Has anyone gone away for guide dog training with young children?
>>> I go in a month and i have a 2 year old, a 5 year old and a 8
>>> year old.  My husband will be looking after them but I need
>>> reasurance that it will work out.  I will be home for weekends
>>> but gone during the week.
>>> thanks.
>>> Steph
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 17
>>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:57:21 +0000
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] guide dog training
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>>> 
>>> We don't know you or your family, we can't possibly know if it will work
>> out or what you mean by that.
>>> I found using a dog to be miserable after I had my daughter mostly 
>>> because
>> the needs of a dog and the needs of a human, at least my human didn't fit
>> the same architecture. The kids need to be in bed, the dog needs a brisk
>> walk, no other adult is present, well the dog doesn't get the walk they
>> need.
>>> Or you are out all day, you stay out longer then expected, obtaining food
>> for the humans is easy, human food can be had anywhere, dog food less so.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Going away to get your dog should be a piece of cake. Coming home on the
>> weekends should work very nicely. *Being* home with your dog and trying to
>> integrate the needs of everybody may be the tricky area.
>>> You know the personality of your kids, that's not something you can know
>> before you have a baby which is when I was a dog user.  You can and should
>> tell the school what type of personality you need in a dog.  How do your
>> kids feel about the dog? Has this been handed down to them from on high, 
>> or
>> have they invested in what you need to do? Is the older one willing to 
>> "keep
>> an eye on my brother" while you take the dog out to relieve?  If not, you
>> will be worn out by a dog that needs to go potty outside and needs you to 
>> be
>> present while you have kids that need you inside and know you need to be
>> outside with the dog.
>>> 
>>> You have a lot of things stacked in your favor. This can very easily work
>> for you.  There is no way though that we can assure you that hings will be
>> ok with what you've written.  I'm not even sure how you are defining
>> success. If you'r easking the list to reassure you that your husband and
>> kids won't burn down the joint while you're gone, yes, we can probably do
>> that.  If you're asking "Will my kids, husband dog and I ride happily into
>> the sunset". No, there is no way any of us can assure you of that.
>>> Realize too that guide dog schools have been around forever. They aren't
>> going anywhere. If you try it and don't like it, now six months from now, 
>> or
>> whenever, it's fine. Nothing terrible will happen to you or your family. I
>> say this because nobody talks about this aspect and when they do it's with 
>> a
>> sense of shame. You don't need to feel that shame. Go and have fun and 
>> enjoy
>> the experience. There's nothing quite like your first dog. Let the future
>> take care of itself.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Stephanie
>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:38 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: [blparent] guide dog training
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Has anyone gone away for guide dog training with young children?
>>> I go in a month and i have a 2 year old, a 5 year old and a 8
>>> year old.  My husband will be looking after them but I need
>>> reasurance that it will work out.  I will be home for weekends
>>> but gone during the week.
>>> thanks.
>>> Steph
>>> 
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>>> Message: 18
>>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:59:13 -0500
>>> From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] guide dog training
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> I jsut went to guide dog training and I have a 15 month old, he was 13
>>> months at the time, it worked out great since my mom could help my
>>> fiancee watch him, what school is allowing you to do training with
>>> there at the week and home on the weekends? just curious.
>>> Jessica
>>> 
>>> On 1/13/13, Stephanie Mitchell <naturelovingmom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Has anyone gone away for guide dog training with young children?
>>>> I go in a month and i have a 2 year old, a 5 year old and a 8
>>>> year old.  My husband will be looking after them but I need
>>>> reasurance that it will work out.  I will be home for weekends
>>>> but gone during the week.
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Steph
>>>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:16:02 -0600
> From: "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> Message-ID: <B83F7ED996A846D7B18F5A6E346768D8 at racPC>
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> Oh well I am not writing a paper or a professional email so I do not care.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> 
>> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
>> 
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting his 
>>> nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think because I 
>>> am going to do what I feel safe doing  for my child sighted people do not 
>>> do everything for their children either such as education most sighted 
>>> folks send kids to school their fore they are not doing everything for 
>>> their children and they also work so some one else is caring for the 
>>> children why they are not around.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have really 
>>>> relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would say if you 
>>>> are comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am serious. He won't 
>>>> cut himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it once, he wouldn't 
>>>> do it again. where is dad, why doesn't he cut the nails.
>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
>>>> Blog: http://thebt.net
>>>> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl <motherkubehl at aol.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe 
>>>>> nails.
>>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip them.
>>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we 
>>>>> don't do that anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a 
>>>>> moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We 
>>>>> teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of 
>>>>> France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to 
>>>>> each of them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are 
>>>>> unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been another 
>>>>> child like you. Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you 
>>>>> move. You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You 
>>>>> have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you 
>>>>> grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must 
>>>>> work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of its children." ~ 
>>>>> Pablo Picasso I always personally reference how Jesus treated his 
>>>>> disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated, fishermen. He never yelled, 
>>>>> hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know and love the Lord with 
>>>>> their entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, loving teachings. 
>>>>> That is how I want to parent my children."
>>>>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:18:54 -0600
> From: "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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> 
> Since we are getting politically correct here I for got my linking verb sue 
> me lol
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> 
>> Oh well I am not writing a paper or a professional email so I do not care.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>> 
>> 
>>> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting his 
>>>> nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think because 
>>>> I am going to do what I feel safe doing  for my child sighted people do 
>>>> not do everything for their children either such as education most 
>>>> sighted folks send kids to school their fore they are not doing 
>>>> everything for their children and they also work so some one else is 
>>>> caring for the children why they are not around.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have 
>>>>> really relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would say 
>>>>> if you are comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am serious. 
>>>>> He won't cut himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it once, he 
>>>>> wouldn't do it again. where is dad, why doesn't he cut the nails.
>>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
>>>>> Blog: http://thebt.net
>>>>> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl 
>>>>> <motherkubehl at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe 
>>>>>> nails.
>>>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip 
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we 
>>>>>> don't do that anymore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a 
>>>>>> moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We 
>>>>>> teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital 
>>>>>> of France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say 
>>>>>> to each of them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are 
>>>>>> unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been 
>>>>>> another child like you. Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the 
>>>>>> way you move. You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a 
>>>>>> Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. 
>>>>>> And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a 
>>>>>> marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of 
>>>>>> its children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally reference how Jesus 
>>>>>> treated his disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated, fishermen. He 
>>>>>> never yelled, hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know and love 
>>>>>> the Lord with their entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, 
>>>>>> loving teachings. That is how I want to parent my children."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:38:49 -0700
> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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> 
> I agree. I have done the same thing with my two kids nails as well. I don't
> do it to Dylan's anymore as he's seven, but I still do Kates. I've been
> biting them off since they were babies. do you know who told me to bite them
> off? A sited mom who did the same thing to her kids. The problem is though,
> now Dylan bites his own nails off. Actually, is that a problem or not? Hmm,
> I'm not sure. We're always taught not to bite our nails right? So now, I've
> taught them to go ahead and do it. Well, I will let his dad teach them how
> to clip them when they're old enough. Now, there is something that I forget
> to do. I forget to clean under their nails. Dylan's na.es are always dirty
> as he's a boy and is always in the dirt outside. I seriously forget about
> this. Usually a bath cleans Kate's, but what do you all do to clean your
> children's nails? 
> 
> Jeri
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of peggy
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:29 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
>    Until my kids are old enough to cut their own, I bit them off, gross,
> maybe but it works and I for one am not going to use clippers and cut too
> short b/c I know how bad that can hurt!!  Otherwise find someone to cut them
> ... I don't think once in a while asking for help with something your not
> comfortable with makes us bad parents ... I have three kids and I've never,
> ever used the clippers on them, it's just something I don't feel comfortable
> with and something I can handle by biting their nails or by asking someone
> to cut them for me.  Helpless I am not but somethings I don't mind asking
> for help on and this is one of them.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:34 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe nails.
> my friend use to clip his nails.
> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip them.
> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we don't
> do that anymore.
> 
> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
> 
> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment
> that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We teach them
> that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France. When
> will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of them: Do you
> know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that
> have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your legs, your
> arms, your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a Shakespeare, a
> Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are
> a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you,
> a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of its
> children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally reference how Jesus treated
> his disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated, fishermen. He never yelled,
> hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know and love the Lord with their
> entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, loving teachings. That is how
> I want to parent my children."
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *I've lost my mind and I'm pretty sure my kids took it.* 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:51:58 -0700
> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> Message-ID: <001301cdf6c1$8116f9a0$8344ece0$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I forgive you Dianna! Lol! No worries! 
> 
> Jeri
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dianna
> Alley
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:19 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> Since we are getting politically correct here I for got my linking verb sue
> me lol
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> 
>> Oh well I am not writing a paper or a professional email so I do not care.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>> 
>> 
>>> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting 
>>>> his nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think 
>>>> because I am going to do what I feel safe doing  for my child 
>>>> sighted people do not do everything for their children either such 
>>>> as education most sighted folks send kids to school their fore they 
>>>> are not doing everything for their children and they also work so 
>>>> some one else is caring for the children why they are not around.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" 
>>>> <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have 
>>>>> really relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would 
>>>>> say if you are comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am
> serious.
>>>>> He won't cut himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it 
>>>>> once, he wouldn't do it again. where is dad, why doesn't he cut the
> nails.
>>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
>>>>> Blog: http://thebt.net
>>>>> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl 
>>>>> <motherkubehl at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his 
>>>>>> finger/toe nails.
>>>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip 
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, 
>>>>>> so we don't do that anymore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a 
>>>>>> moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our 
>>>>>> children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris 
>>>>>> is the capital of France. When will we also teach them what they 
>>>>>> are? We should say to each of them: Do you know what you are? You 
>>>>>> are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that have passed, 
>>>>>> there has never been another child like you. Your legs, your arms, 
>>>>>> your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a 
>>>>>> Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for
> anything. Yes, you are a marvel.
>>>>>> And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, 
>>>>>> a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make the world 
>>>>>> worthy of its children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally 
>>>>>> reference how Jesus treated his disciples - a group of unruly, 
>>>>>> uneducated, fishermen. He never yelled, hit, punched, 
>>>>>> belittled...yet they came to know and love the Lord with their 
>>>>>> entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, loving teachings. That
> is how I want to parent my children."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> for
>>>>>> blparent:
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>>>>>> %40gmail.com
>>>>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:38:59 -0600
> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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> 
> Gabe,
> 
> This has nothing to do with parenting, this is not a grammar list.  
> 
> Regarding another note, while I don't want to see anybody put down, comparing having someone else cut fingernails to having someone else teach your 
> kids is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.  However, not every parent is good at all of the same things.  My intent in my earlier note is to lay out some possible 
> approaches to think about and try, and that's the kind of thing this list is for.  We stretch one another by hearing how others do things we perhaps have 
> been hesitant to try.  It makes us all just a little better.  That doesn't mean that every one of us will necessarily try everything that we see here, but we 
> need to think about our reasons for not trying.  I did cut my kids fingernails and also trimmed our cat's claws.  Trimming the cat's claws was actually a bit 
> more scarey in some ways.  But most of you could cook circles around me.  Still, I know I could cook better if I had to, and in my mind, it would be nice if 
> we could encourage people to feel they could cut fingernails or toenails in an emergency at least when nobody is available.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:47:41 -0700, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S wrote:
> 
>> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
> 
>> Gabe Vega 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting his nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think because I am going to
> do what I feel safe doing  for my child sighted people do not do everything for their children either such as education most sighted folks send kids to 
> school their fore they are not doing everything for their children and they also work so some one else is caring for the children why they are not around.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have really relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would say if you are
> comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am serious. He won't cut himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it once, he wouldn't do it again. where 
> is dad, why doesn't he cut the nails.
>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
>>>> Blog: http://thebt.net
>>>> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl <motherkubehl at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe nails.
>>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip them.
>>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we don't do that anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We
> teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of 
> them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your 
> legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for 
> anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to 
> make the world worthy of its children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally reference how Jesus treated his disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated, 
> fishermen. He never yelled, hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know and love the Lord with their entire beings - all through his gentle, firm, loving 
> teachings. That is how I want to parent my children."
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> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 06:13:33 -0700
> From: "Jeri Milton" <jjmilton at cox.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
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> Hi Steve. 
> Do you know if they make nail clippers that have a guide on them so you
> don't clip too far down? I know they make those fat QTips so that you don't
> go too deep into the ear. We've all heard how those are bad for cleaning
> ears. Just wondering If they made a safer nail clipper as well.  Thanks. 
> 
> Jeri
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:39 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
> 
> Gabe,
> 
> This has nothing to do with parenting, this is not a grammar list.  
> 
> Regarding another note, while I don't want to see anybody put down,
> comparing having someone else cut fingernails to having someone else teach
> your kids is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.  However, not every parent is
> good at all of the same things.  My intent in my earlier note is to lay out
> some possible approaches to think about and try, and that's the kind of
> thing this list is for.  We stretch one another by hearing how others do
> things we perhaps have been hesitant to try.  It makes us all just a little
> better.  That doesn't mean that every one of us will necessarily try
> everything that we see here, but we need to think about our reasons for not
> trying.  I did cut my kids fingernails and also trimmed our cat's claws.
> Trimming the cat's claws was actually a bit more scarey in some ways.  But
> most of you could cook circles around me.  Still, I know I could cook better
> if I had to, and in my mind, it would be nice if we could encourage people
> to feel they could cut fingernails or toenails in an emergency at least when
> nobody is available.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:47:41 -0700, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S wrote:
> 
>> You apparently don't do punctuation either.
> 
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>> well I don't think anyone should putting her down for not cutting his 
>>> nails I do not do it either and I do not care what people think 
>>> because I am going to
> do what I feel safe doing  for my child sighted people do not do everything
> for their children either such as education most sighted folks send kids to
> school their fore they are not doing everything for their children and they
> also work so some one else is caring for the children why they are not
> around.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" 
>>> <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Questions on how to clip finger/toe nails
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> um, you haven't clipped your own son's nails in 4 years? you have 
>>>> really relied on some one else for 4 whole years. um. ok? I would 
>>>> say if you are
> comfortable doing it, teach him how to do it. I am serious. He won't cut
> himself. at least not on purpose, or if he did it once, he wouldn't do it
> again. where is dad, why doesn't he cut the nails.
>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
>>>> Blog: http://thebt.net
>>>> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl <motherkubehl at aol.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, my son is 4, and up to now, my friend use to clip his finger/toe
> nails.
>>>>> my friend use to clip his nails.
>>>>> Now, my friend is working long days 7 days a week, I have to clip them.
>>>>> I'm afraid of clipping them too low, or enhurting him.
>>>>> I tried filing his nails, but he hates the texture of the filer, so we
> don't do that anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Kubehl Christian Academy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a 
>>>>> moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? 
>>>>> We
> teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of
> France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of
> them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the
> years that have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your
> legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a
> Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for
> anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm
> another who is, like you, a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make
> the world worthy of its children." ~ Pablo Picasso I always personally
> reference how Jesus treated his disciples - a group of unruly, uneducated,
> fishermen. He never yelled, hit, punched, belittled...yet they came to know
> and love the Lord with their entire beings - all through his gentle, firm,
> loving teachings. That is how I want to parent my children."
>>>>> 
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