[blparent] New guide Dog.

[Star Gazer]

In airness to the guys, I can see why they react poorly when we're away. If
we are home with our kids, then they have to do everything kid related while
also going to work. Kids by contrast have their needs and wants taken care
of because that's what we do as parents. As parents, we need our spouse or
whoever to help make sure our needs and wants are met. So, not really a fair
comparison to compare an adult's reaction to a kid's. The needs are
different, the responsibilities are different, the expectations are
different. 
I think if I was going to get a dog, I'd go in the summer when school isn't
in session. No homework, not as strict a need for bedtime routines, the
weather is nicer, work is generally more relaxed. 
I say all this not to criticize J.E., but more for Kayla's planning
purposes. Also, J.E. is right about a yonger dog having behaviors that need
to be sorted out. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jo
Elizabeth Pinto via blparent
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:52 PM
To: Judy Jones; Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

Hi.  It just depends on your family and your needs.  I had a guide dog who
was starting to slow down when my baby was born, which worked out fairly
well because I traveled less during the infant and toddler years.  Now that
my daughter entered first grade and the dog passed away, I went for training
with a new one.  It was hard to leave for the two weeks of training, but
really, the man of the house was worse about it than my daughter was.  The
process of losing the last dog, bringing the new one home, and adjusting to
her has been difficult because of some sadness and some jealousy over the
attention the new dog has gotten from other people, but in the end, it will
be worth the trouble.  I will travel independently and be able to go further
with a dog than I can with a cane on field trips and back and forth to my
daughter's school for Halloween parties and the like.  For us, it works. 
But it has taken a lot of effort.  I don't know that I would have wanted a
younger dog while my child was young.  I wouldn't have wanted to leave for
training while I had a toddler or have a young dog in the house with a very
small child.  It was good because my dog was older and very patient.  Her
guidework and her behavior in the house were solid.  Now that I have a new
dog, I have to be watchful of her work when we go out.  I have to stop and
rework errors when she makes them so that they don't become habits.  I have
to pay particular attention to how she greets new people so that we set up
good patterns from the start.  I wouldn't have wanted to be fussing with
these things while caring for a baby or a young child.  Now that my kid has
more independence, I'm ready to take on a new dog.  These are all things to
think about.

Jo Elizabeth

Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Jones via blparent
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:46 PM
To: Star Gazer ; Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

Very good insight.

I have had four guide dogs, and all during our kids growing years.  The
intensity in  changes in bringing New Dog home and everyone getting
acclimated are not unlike thos faced by bringing a new baby home.  Both take
time, forethought and planning.  To be able to accurately answer this
question, it would be helpful to kknow what is driving this train.

Judy


-----Original Message-----
From: Star Gazer via blparent
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'Kaila Allen' ; 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

What exactly are you thinking about?
I've used two dogs and I use a cane now. There are pros and cons and you
need to be aware of them.
It's my belief and experience that the guide dog model is a very masculine
model. It doesn't account for the demands of pregnancy, newborns and young
children. You can work around this, just as you can work around anything.
You'll have to decide if that's what you want, what impact it will have on
your family and if that's how you and your family want to spend time money
and energy.
I've told many people that having a new baby is way easier then adjusting to
a guide dog. People "get" babies even if they differ on the best way to
handle them. Very few people "get" guide dogs. They expect perfection and
that expectation is based on them and what they think they know and has very
little to do with reality.


-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaila Allen
via blparent
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:51 PM
To: Shelby Young; Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

I have been thinking about getting a guy dog can you guys give me a couple
of the pros and cons to having a guy dog with children my kids are four and
six thank you guys

Princess Kaila
The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
expect to sit Nelson G Henderson


> On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Shelby Young via blparent
<blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Good luck with your next dog! It is so nice having her.
> Shelby
>
>
>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good luck and happy travels.  I leave Sunday for GDB in Oregon, where 
>> I
will train with my third guide dog.  I have a six-year-old who isn't looking
forward to my leaving, but she can't wait to meet my new guide dog when I
return.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, 
>> you
may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Shelby Young via blparent
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:14 PM
>> To: Blind
>> Subject: [blparent] New guide Dog.
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I recently returned from Leader Dogs for the Blind with my first dog. 
>> Her
name is Jackie and she is a 17 month old black lab golden cross.
>> Things are going pretty well. Jackie and Jaxcen already love each other.
Jaxcen is two years old and thinks she should play with whatever he has. :)
>> Right now I put him in my Ergo on my back and we go. If any of you 
>> have
different siggestions of how to travel with a toddler and a guide dog please
let me know.
>> Best regards
>> Shelby
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