[Ct-nfb] Goodwill Boycott

Thu Jun 21 20:32:23 UTC 2012

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From: ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Salisbury
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:19 PM
To: NFB of Connecticut Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] Goodwill Boycott

I think this demonstrates to us how much the BESB staff could get from meeting successful blind people in fields other than blind services.  If we were to do a social between BESB and our affiliate, or something of the sort, we might be able to do something to raise their expectations of blind people.  I know that's one of the things that sets apart the Teacher of Blind Students program at Louisiana Tech: meeting successful blind people in all kinds of fields.  That's one of the primary purposes of the NFB Teacher of Tomorrow program, too.

Justin M. Salisbury
Class of 2012
B.A. in Mathematics
East Carolina University
president at alumni.ecu.edu

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."    -MARGARET MEAD
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From: ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org [ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Blindhands at aol.com [Blindhands at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:56 PM
To: ct-nfb at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] Goodwill Boycott

You have my permission to quote me and my wage to the politicians.  Shame on BESB for allowing this.

Joyce Kane
www.KraftersKorner.org<http://www.krafterskorner.org/>
Blindhands at AOL.com

In a message dated 6/21/2012 3:51:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu writes:
Trevor: You are an excellent philosopher.

Rich: I agree with you and want to make sure you know that the number of people who really, truly, cannot be competitively employed is much, much lower than these predatory companies like Goodwill make it out to be.  The people who really need jobs as a form of entertainment or babysitting is very, very small.

Joyce: I am so sorry to hear that you were ever employed at subminimum wages.  I'm glad you got the heck out of Dodge.  Personal testimonies like yours are very important in our fight for fair wages for all disabled workers.  Would you mind if I referenced your story and attach your name to it when I'm talking to politicians?  That's the lowest wage I've actually heard of in Connecticut.  $3.00 was the lowest Connecticut wage I'd heard of before reading your email.

Justin

Justin M. Salisbury
Class of 2012
B.A. in Mathematics
East Carolina University
president at alumni.ecu.edu

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."    -MARGARET MEAD
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From: ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org [ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Trevor Attenberg [tattenberg at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:36 PM
To: 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] Goodwill Boycott

Shelter and entertainment for those without resources or providing families are one thing. Cheap labor is another thing. It seems an argument states work of any kind is a priceless privilege, and all people should work, even if the pay is close to zero and cannot possibly cover any personal expenses or lead to personal advancement. People should be happy that they are making cheap goods and supporting the wealth of the leaders of so-called charitable providers. Are not personal advancement and self-sufficiency a couple of the perks to being in the labor force? The argument in favor of sub-minimum wages for the disabled is the same that was used against minimum wages for everyone in the first place. Namely, wages should be based on productivity, and therefore those that are not producing enough are not good enough for living wages; whereas the highest producers deserve wealth and quality of life.
It seems to me that if employers are not providing a means for workers to sustain quality of life and personal advancement, they are doing society a disservice, as they instead rely on perpetuated dependence and poverty to sustain their own wealth. Think of the money so-called not-for-profits like Goodwill rake in. These guys claim to be providing support to the needy; but at the same time, they rely on impoverished employees to sustain their business model. Rather a vicious cycle if you ask me. Often these organizations use government funding or charitable giving as well, therefore the public at large is supporting the wealth of those that institute sub-standard employment opportunities. At the same time, these employers are spending money to lobby opposition to the Fair Wages bill the Federation is supporting.
Everyone has the ability to compete, but also everyone has the right to a decent life, especially if they're not choosing to throw away that life. Sub-minimum wages means poverty, and/or perpetual reliance on government and families for monetary support. That doesn't sound like a good deal for anyone, save those that are profiting at the top. We're often taught that sweatshop labor is a condemnable practice employed by under-developed, relatively lawless parts of the planet. So, are we going to accept such conditions as righteous when it comes to the disabled? Remember also that the NFB is not the only organization fighting to remove sub-minimum wages. Many other disability organizations are doing the same-standing up for their own livelihoods.
>From what I know, day care for seniors is a wee different, but I don't know much about it, beyond that it supposedly provides support to seniors living at home without family or friends available to provide necessary aid. BESB does seem to engage in a lot of wasteful or half-hearted practices when it comes to getting clients gainfully employed or prepped for such employment. Why was a train from Stratford to New Haven considered unsafe? Blind people make that trip. We truly need to improve prospective and approach to enhancing the lives of the blind and other folks with disabilities here and around the country. Disabled people do want to contribute to society; but they want to do so in a meaningful way; and they don't want to simultaneously contribute to poverty and dependency.

From: ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Blindhands at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:06 AM
To: ct-nfb at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] Goodwill Boycott

There might be a need for these places.  Such places are available for the elderly and it is called Daycare for Seniorsor similar names and it is very pricey for folks to partake in these places.  These so called Work Shops are many times serve the same purpose.

What upsets me is the fact that BESB considers to encourage their blind clients to take jobs in these places.  BESB falsely paints these positions as permanent job places and pays the blind an above minimum wage pay while they are in training[thru some government work program].     They spent 3 months working out how I could travel from Stratford to New Haven independently.[after it was decided the train was not a safe option, then Bpt transit and My Ride was the choice].     I worked for 6 months part time receiving $11.50 per hour and after the training period I was hired or went onto Americash pay rates which worked out to be $1.20 per hour.  Since the bus transportation cost was $12 per day and  I worked 5 hours a day and spent another average of 4 to 5 hours on a bus or waiting for a bus, I decided after one week  I could not afford to work there.

I could not believe BESB supported such job placement for a blind person.

Joyce Kane
www.KraftersKorner.org<http://www.krafterskorner.org/>
Blindhands at AOL.com<mailto:Blindhands at AOL.com>

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