[Ct-nfb] [Ctabs] December Meeting of the Waterbury Area Chapter

Tue Nov 22 01:48:27 UTC 2016

Hello

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Elizabeth
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Very good points, Gary.
mary

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Gary Allen via CT-NFB <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org<mailto:ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
I see your point of view Justin when teaching people to cross the street audible signals can be a hindrance. The majority of blind and low vision people are people in their 60s 70s and 80s. Those people often don't get mobility training. It is important to have audible crosswalks to allow those people to cross the street safely. Blind people are not the only ones that benefit from audible crosswalks. Children people with other disabilities, and People who are texting and walking or talking on the phone also benefit from Audibles crosswalks.

Gary Allen.

So it is not just the blind that benefit from audible crosswalks.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:00 PM Jim McCollum via CT-NFB <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org<mailto:ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
Hello.
We have some audible traffic signals in the New Haven area, but not very many. I use them when I can, but when I can't, I rely on the mobility skills I learned in 1983. I'm not against audible signals, but it is essential, in my opinion, to know how to travel safely without them.

Jim McCollum
Legislative Co-ordinator
National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut
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On Nov 21, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Mary Silverberg via CT-NFB <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org<mailto:ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

All,
As a partially sighted person, I rely on audible signals when crossing complex intersections. I do not view this as a crutch to dependancy. When  the Town of West Hartford began the installation of these signals when replacing older equipment, several of us with a variety of disabilities went out with the Town engineers and the installers to  optimize the volume with time of day and  length of time to cross. I welcome these signals in every larger city in which  I must navigate.

Mary Silverberg

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:07 PM, bob morrissey via CT-NFB <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org<mailto:ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hey Justin,

Why do you feel so opposed to audible cross walks?   Is it a dependency issue when the function is not working?

As a partially sighted person, I find an audible signal very helpful when crossing a busy intersection.

But, I'm open minded and willing to hear your thoughts.

Thanks.

Bob Morrissey

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Hi Lucia,

Thanks for sending this out! I’m so glad to see that our Waterbury Chapter is already speaking out against the custodialism that yields audible crosswalk signals. If we didn’t have the Waterbury Chapter working on this, Waterbury could become as bad as Honolulu, with audible crosswalk signals almost everywhere. It really gets in the way of teaching my students how to cross streets safely. I’m working on a research article for the orientation and mobility profession on exactly why the implementation of audible crosswalk signals are bad for blind people. It’s too bad that I haven’t published it already because it could be great support for the Chapter’s argument.

Good luck, and please let me know how I can help!

Justin

Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB

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National Federation of the Blind

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Subject: [Ctabs] December Meeting of the Waterbury Area Chapter

Help Us Build Our Future

Attend Meetings of Our New Waterbury Chapter!

The National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut (NFB of CT) invites you to join our new Waterbury Chapter. We hold our meetings at the Silas Bronson Library, 267 Grand Street, on the Second Saturday of each month.

On December 10th, our meeting will concern audible crosswalk signals in the City of Waterbury. Our State Representative Gerry Reyes, several Aldermen and a City Engineer will attend our meeting to discuss this issue. Plan to attend this important meeting!

To learn that you are greater than what most sighted people believe they see, meet us at the Silas Bronson Library on Saturday December 10th from noon to 2:00 PM.

For further questions, please contact Josefina Martinez at 203-578-6471<tel:203-578-6471>, or call our community outreach office at 860-289-1971<tel:860-289-1971>.

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