[Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

Wed Sep 18 01:42:10 UTC 2013

Oh, yes.  I should have said that.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

> Obviously it's type two and not type one this procedure can potentially
> get rid of.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: Bill Lewis; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>
>
> Actually, Bill, I'd not recommend banding now.  It's day has kind of
> come
> and gone.  However, gastric bypass and the gastric sleeve are options
> that
> really do help people control weight who just can't do it any other
> way--and
> the advantage, at least with bypass, is that diabetes goes away or gets
> much
> easier to control, blood pressure, cholesterol, and other things go to
> normal, and it is actually seen in many medical circles as the panacea
> we're
> all looking for.
>
> The two procedures are not available for people whose weight is not
> quite
> high, and over a period of years there is some weight increase.  But it
> is
> certainly medically/surgically optional.  Having said all that, it's
> darned
> annoying, too, because there's a rather long phase of adjustment to tiny
>
> amounts of food and liquid, which comes with vomiting and diarrhea and
> other
> unpleasant side effects for a while.  And I don't mean a week or two,
> either.
>
> The gastric bands are going out of favor because they tend not to be as
> effective, being adjustable, and they can move and cause damage during
> exercise.
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Lewis" <wlewis19 at cox.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi.  Regarding weight loss, would a recommendation for stomach banding
>> surgery be stretching credulity?  (gri n)  A friend of my son used to
> have
>> a compulstion for eating.  Diets did not work, because he always felt
>> hungry, so would sneak food.  Finally he had the stomch banding
> surgery.
>> Several years later now, he is slim, trim, physically fit, and happy,
> and
>> has finally found a significant other who thinks he is great.  No, I'm
> not
>> stretching the truth either.  Bill Lewis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:22 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>
>> Well, for one thing, it is all generalities on Dr. Oz's show. He
>> doesn't
>> know you or your body, yo ur situation or anything else about you. You
> can
>> learn from him and it can help you to ask questions. Also, many things
> in
>> the medical field, and in dietetics in particularly, are quite
>> controversial. So at the end of the day you have to monitor your body
> and
>> see what is working best for your health, I think.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Bridgit Pollpeter
>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually caught an episode not that long ago at my mother-in-laws,
>>> and he was refuting certain endorsements. I guess some companies have
>
>>> claimed he is endorsing them when in reality he isn't. I would still
>>> proceed with caution if thinking of taking to heart everything you
>>> hear on his show or website though.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:59 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that he is a good doctor, I think he is
>>> borderline sensational fraud myself to be really honest. There was
>>> something he was trying to get me to buy once to lose weight, or
>>> rather they were using him as a reason. Sometimes, I think he really
>>> doesn't endorse the stuff so much as show it and people think he is
>>> endorsing it. He did endorse Weight Watchers a year or so ago though.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:36 PM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you agree with Dr. Oz about?  Every time I watch him he
>>>> recommends several dietary supplements, some kind of weird shake or
>>>> smoothie, or the latest seed that's found edible.  I've never found
>>>> anything Dr. Oz won't push on his program.  He even says one day
>>>> that he doesn't buy into a thing, then has someone on the show the
>>>> next to push it.  I believe he's a great doctor--but I certainly
>>>> don't trust him!  He's one of the media doctors pushing everything
>>>> that seems to be relevant based on one study.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry--I just think you need to know the truth.  Now you can agree
>>>> with him and make your own choices, but at least you know what he's
>>>> actually doing.
>>>>
>>>> Sandi
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with doctor Oz.
>>>>> keep up the good work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dar
>>>>> Every saint has a past,
>>>>> Every sinner has a future
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But I love Dr. Ozzzzzz!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, just had to do this.
>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:10 AM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly!  And when doctors and other health professionals are
>>>>>>> recommending this or that, they are often basing it on their best
>
>>>>>>> conjecture or on the results of one or a few studies, just as we
>>>>>>> do
>>>
>>>>>>> when we read things and follow them on that basis.  And remember
>>>>>>> that, while the FDA's panel that approves drugs and foods is
>>>>>>> expert, they are not experts in everything.  As a speaker at a
>>>>>>> commencement at Harvard Medical School in the 80s said "You can
>>>>>>> leave here knowing that about 10% of what we taught you here is
>>>>>>> fact. The problem is, none of us knows which 10%."  Most people
>>>>>>> get
>>>
>>>>>>> their beliefs from the media (including media doctors who
>>>>>>> interpret
>>>
>>>>>>> study findings), and most media reports are based on what's been
>>>>>>> discovered in one study by one group of researchers, and touted
>>>>>>> as fact.  And many times, when further study shows the opposite,
>>>>>>> it is
>>>
>>>>>>> ignored, or the public has come to believe so strongly in the
>>>>>>> first
>>>
>>>>>>> study that no amount of evidence to the contrary can change
>>>>>>> minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, the medical community and FDA are always changing their
>>>>>>>> minds about what is good and what isn't. For years we were told
>>>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>>> limit caffeine consumption, but recently, I hear everywhere that
>
>>>>>>>> massive amounts of caffeine are good for you. Okay, perhaps
>>>>>>>> massive is an exaggeration, grin, but seriously, I saw one
>>>>>>>> interview where multiple cups of coffee were being recommended.
>>>>>>>> Just a couple of years ago the medical community would have
>>>>>>>> admonished you for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I agree with have to proceed withcaution when it comes to
>>>>>>>> these
>>>
>>>>>>>> reports and not jump on bandwagons. I recall a decade ago when
>>>>>>>> low-carb diets were all the rage, and everyone was sure this was
>
>>>>>>>> the way to lose weight and eat in general. Now we know that a
>>>>>>>> balance diet including complex carbs is much better than
>>>>>>>> low-carb or no-carb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think balance is key, and watching consumption amounts and
>>>>>>>> what we eat does more than following current trends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:04 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know. Frankly, I don't buy any of it. There are too many
>
>>>>>>>> variables to draw such conclusions IMHO. Remember also that more
>
>>>>>>>> fiber was supposed to lessen the risk of colon cancer but that
>>>>>>>> also has been called into question. Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 17:50, Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In meat? Okay, what about so-called organic meat? Like the
>>>>>>>>> stuff void of man-made preservatives and additives and all that
>
>>>>>>>>> junk? Guess I haven't heard this one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He is probably worried about supposed colon cancer risk. Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:59, Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why avoid meat? I know too much protein can actually affect
>>>>>>>>>> glucose levels, but usually protein is recommended because
>>>>>>>>>> protein is what stabilizes blood sugars. I know protein can be
>
>>>>>>>>>> found in food other than meat, but I've never heard you should
>
>>>>>>>>>> avoid meat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Vicky, my name is Bill Lewis, and I want to share with you
>>>>>>>>>> the importance of our following the basics of glucose control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is an old and famous saying that "He who does not
>>>>>>>>>> understand his
>>>>>>>>
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