[Dtb-talk] DTB Here and There

Sun Dec 13 12:30:37 UTC 2009

We are using special built digitizing devices built by Graff in the
United Kingdom. They were built for us and for this application. They
also do the reversal of the audio on the fly. They are really quite
something to watch but at over A$2000 each they do not come cheap. We
also offer commercial production services to convert materials and
tapes owned by other into DAISY and other digital formats if anyone
out there is interested please feel free to contact me.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:20 PM, T. Joseph Carter
<carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow Greg, what is your audio sampling rate to do it that quickly?  If you
> played a C-90 back at 3.75 inches/second with 44.1 kHz, your effective
> sample rate is 11.025 kHz, which is reasonable given the source material,
> but even if you were reading all four tracks at once (doable with not too
> terribly uncommon gear), it's gonna be 23 minutes or so.
>
> At 96 kHz you could go to 7.5 inches/second with the same quality, but again
> you're looking at a little over 11 minutes of digitizing time.
>
> I'd love even the four track 2x setup.  Presently I'm doing it two tracks
> and 90 minutes per tape.
>
> Joseph
>
> --
> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
> If they are blind, the answer is 90%--more than 52,000 children!
> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:10:42AM +0800, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>> Yes we have digitizing machines here that will do a whole tape in about 6
>> minutes.
>>
>>
>> Gregory Kearney
>> Manager - Accessible Media
>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>
>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>
>> On 13/12/2009, at 10:04 AM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Grover,
>>>
>>> I can and do extract 4track with a computer pretty easy.  You have to
>>> split left and right, cut the speed in half, reverse the "right channel" of
>>> both sides, and remember that the 3-4 sides are encoded on the opposite
>>> sides of the tape from where you'd expect them to be (hence the need to
>>> reverse the audio).
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> --
>>> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
>>> If they are blind, the answer is 90%--more than 52,000 children!
>>> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 05:54:49PM -0500, Grover Zinn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been thinking for various reasons about accessibility of etexts for
>>>> text-to-voice and other such things (including the Amazon Kindle situation).
>>>>
>>>> I did not know DRM was the "problem" with NLS downloads; I do know that
>>>> the Milestone 312 (a pretty spectacular piece of hardware with the addons)
>>>> will not play NLS (and they designed it this way, given that they are
>>>> European).  I would think that the "lockout" via registration for BARD
>>>> should let the NLS "control" the distribution of texts in Daisy format.
>>>>  With the 4track tapes, there was a bit of a limitation that you have to
>>>> have a 4track player, but there is no way to lock the tapes (as far as I
>>>> know).
>>>>
>>>> The "management" of etexts to prevent text to voice (see the Barnes and
>>>> Noble ebook web site) is interesting; is this just publisher control, or is
>>>> the "copyright law" on their side/ (I've done copyright law for a collegiate
>>>> setting, and it is complicated and in some cases yet to be tested in court).
>>>>
>>>> A bit of a ramble.  But this is a very interesting and crucial question.
>>>>  Other than protecting the talking book market, what is the problem???
>>>>  (Profits are important to companies   :-)   )
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Grover Zinn
>>>>
>>>> Grover Zinn
>>>> William H. Danforth Professor of Religion, emeritus
>>>> former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>>>> Oberlin College
>>>> Oberlin, OH 44074
>>>> grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:34:56 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What you may have noticed or
>>>>>> been told is NLS possibly giving RNIB access to the original DAISY
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> the DRM.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was CNIB, but that's neither here nor there. So OK, who puts the
>>>>> DRM on these things, and why do we need to wait until that's done
>>>>> while other countries get it without?  This sounds remarkably like
>>>>> buying drugs from other countries which were made in the U.S. but not
>>>>> distributable in the U.S.
>>>>>
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Gregory Kearney
Manager - Accessible Media
Association for the Blind of Western Australia
61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia

Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
Email: gkearney at gmail.com