[Dtb-talk] digital player information

James Aldrich jajkaldrich at gmail.com
Thu Sep 22 16:12:50 UTC 2011 

Hi again Jim,

I'd probably use Humanware companion to transfer books to a given cartridge, 
thumb drive or card.  This seems to be adaptable for both machines.  I can 
innerchange the card at will and listen on whichever device I care to use 
very quickly!  Again I'm still learning the best way to deal with all of my 
machines.

Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information


>I agree if you move the files to the $VRMusic, $VRPodcasts,
> $VROtherBooks, or even $VRNotes folders they would play.  The point is
> you have to move them.
>
> Sorry, my part in this thread feels like it jumped the shark.  My
> question was simply how often do you find yourself wanting to play
> content on both the stream and the pocket/bookport plus, especially
> given the constraints I mentioned earlier.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:33:45AM -0600, James Aldrich wrote:
>> I'll play with this but I'll bet if these are placed in the music folder,
>> they would play!  I'll check on this!  I'll record a note on the stream 
>> and
>> move it to BPP and see if it plays.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>>
>>
>> >Howdy,
>> >
>> >FYI: I'm assuming the bookport plus will play 3gp files, since that's
>> >the type of audio BARD uses for NLS talking books.
>> >
>> >Therefore, I assume anything recorded on the stream will play fine on
>> >the bookport plus.  But, since the stream won't be able to find files
>> >recorded on by the bookport plus, it won't be able to  play them.
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
>> >On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:11:40PM -0600, James Aldrich wrote:
>> >>Hello!
>> >>
>> >>I haven't gone that far to determine all of this for certain!  I do 
>> >>know
>> >>the
>> >>BPP played music files my wife had on a card with no problems.  If one
>> >>has
>> >>the soft pack, one can record MP3 files with the stream and if these 
>> >>end
>> >>up
>> >>in a music folder, the BPP could probably play them Of course, the BPP
>> >>can't
>> >>play the 3gp or whatever it is files to my knowlege but then, I haven't
>> >>gone
>> >>that far!
>> >>
>> >>As for playing books, I usually try to stop at the end of a chapter.  I
>> >>then
>> >>place the SD card in my BPP and find the chapter and all is well!  If
>> >>this
>> >>isn't possible, I try to see how much time has elapsed in the book and 
>> >>I
>> >>then forward to that time in my BPP.  I've done this between my Stream
>> >>and
>> >>NLS player often!  There are any nuymber of ways to deal with this type
>> >>of
>> >>situation!  Then again, one could put books on more than one card, 
>> >>thumb
>> >>drive or cartridge.  It is easy to backup both ways with the BPP.  I
>> >>don't
>> >>consider this problematic!
>> >>
>> >>Jim
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
>> >>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:26 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Jim,
>> >>>
>> >>>I'm curious when this feature is useful to you.
>> >>>
>> >>>Your place isn't remembered between the two devices.  So, if you start
>> >>>reading a book on the stream, and then continue reading it on the
>> >>>book port plus, you'll have to refind your place.  The same is true in
>> >>>the other direction.
>> >>>
>> >>>Also, if you record something on the BPP, the stream won't be able
>> >>>to play it.
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>>Jim
>> >>>
>> >>>On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 08:19:30AM -0600, James Aldrich wrote:
>> >>>>Hi Mike, Tina and all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I do like the fact that I can put SD cards from my Victor Reader 
>> >>>>Stream
>> >>>>into
>> >>>>my Book Port Plus and play the content.  The Book Port Plus isn't as
>> >>>>particular about the directory structure so the device manages to 
>> >>>>find
>> >>>>digital content no matter where it is!  That has been my experience! 
>> >>>>I
>> >>>>don't have to move files between the two devices.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> >>>>To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:21 PM
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Good evaluation!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> >>>>>[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>>>>On
>> >>>>>Behalf Of Jim Barbour
>> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:37 AM
>> >>>>>To: Dale Leavens; Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I would agree that the stream is a better device, some specifics
>> >>>>>below.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>* I've never seen software stability issues with the stream.  It 
>> >>>>>will,
>> >>>>> once a year or so for me, corrupt its internal database and need to
>> >>>>> be reset.  This is a minor issue, despite how it sounds <smile>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>* The stream is a much better book reader, feeling much more
>> >>>>> comfortable and intuitive than the pocket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>* The pocket does do wifi.  However, there is no web browser.  This
>> >>>>> means that you can't use it with any public facing wifi, such as at
>> >>>>> a starbucks.  This is because there's no way to enter a password, 
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> agree to terms of service.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>* The pocket is a much better recorder.  If you're looking for a way
>> >>>>> to organize class recordings, have books read, etc. then the pocket
>> >>>>> becomes much more attractive.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>* I would also have a look at the book port plus from APH.  They 
>> >>>>>took
>> >>>>> the Pocket and redid much of its firmware.  So, the commands are
>> >>>>> different, and the features changed slightly.  I like the Book Port
>> >>>>> more than the pocket, and I like the stream better than either.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Hope this helps,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:01:49PM -0400, Dale Leavens wrote:
>> >>>>>>All you say is true from my perspective too. The Stream has a 
>> >>>>>>better
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>louder speaker as well however we have some software stability 
>> >>>>>>issues
>> >>>>>>with
>> >>>>>>the Stream. Just recently when copying DAISY content from CNIB 
>> >>>>>>discs
>> >>>>>>apparently works but the book does not appear in the bookshelf. 
>> >>>>>>When
>> >>>>>>attempting to copy it again one is prompted to overwrite the book
>> >>>>>>which
>> >>>>>>apparently isn't there and doing so doesn't put it there either.
>> >>>>>>There
>> >>>>>seems
>> >>>>>>to be issues around how the directory works and is organized. So 
>> >>>>>>far
>> >>>>>>I
>> >>>>>have
>> >>>>>>not seen this sort of trouble with the PlexTalk Pocket. I do wish 
>> >>>>>>it
>> >>>>>>had
>> >>>>>>a
>> >>>>>>more robust sound though and a better protective case for when I am
>> >>>>>wearing
>> >>>>>>it about my work in the shop and gardens.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Dale leavens.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrews, David B (DEED)"
>> >>>>>><david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
>> >>>>>>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:16 PM
>> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>They are similar devices, they do many of the same things  -- they
>> >>>>>>>both
>> >>>>>>>have their strengths and weaknesses.  Personally I think the 
>> >>>>>>>Stream
>> >>>>is >>>a
>> >>>>>>>better DAISY book player, its algorithms for speeding up a book
>> >>>>>>>without
>> >>>>>>>changing the pitch are better, and it has very good battery life,
>> >>>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>>>well thought out, and easy to use.  The Pocket is thinner and
>> >>>>>>>lighter,
>> >>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>>>probably a better recorder, and can now be connected for some 
>> >>>>>>>things
>> >>>>>>>via
>> >>>>>>>Wifi.  I don't find it as easy to use, and battery life isn't as
>> >>>>>>>good,
>> >>>>>but
>> >>>>>>>smaller.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>So, it depends on what is important to you!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Dave
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>>>[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>>>>>>On
>> >>>>>>>Behalf Of Sarah
>> >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:41 AM
>> >>>>>>>To: dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>>>Subject: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Hello. I have been using a Victor Reader stream for several years. 
>> >>>>>>>I
>> >>>>>would
>> >>>>>>>like to know the difference between the stream and the PlexTalk
>> >>>>>>>Pocket.
>> >>>>>>>Thank you.
>> >>>>>>>   Sarah
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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