[Electronics-talk] turning on SAP

Sun Feb 8 06:36:21 UTC 2009

Well I'm not sure what you meant by a second language. However, in my 
opinion movies and tv are a major part of our culture whether you like it or 
not. It is sure nice to be able to watch certain shows and movies and know 
what's going on without having to piece things together. Now the 
inauguration that was described? I didn't really see a point to it. But the 
show 24?
And remember a lot of ocountries have dvs on many channels cable and 
regular. Especially the UK. They didn't seem to have a problem making that 
happen.
I guess I shouldn't have spoken out agains the nfb on an nfb list but I'm 
known for being somewhat of a pest.
thanks
bb

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP

>I are with you never having a fan of old time radio and the like but I 
>think there are other ways that blind people can get involved and be just 
>as much a part of it. Growing up blind in the 60's there wasn't much of pop 
>culture that I missed out on. I could appreciate it for people who need to 
>listen to a second language but I think the money spent on audio 
>description for the blind could be spent on other forms of accessibility.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett Boyer" <bboyer202 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>
>
>> Yes well there are blind people that would like to be a part of pop 
>> culture and watch some tv. We all don't want to sit and listen to 
>> audiobooks all day long, or old time radio for that matter. I hate to 
>> break it to you but most sports are already in description anyway. What 
>> is not in description are action, comedy, suspense, even some 
>> documentaries on television. And, may I add that the NFB is not a 
>> supporter of advocating for description that's why the blindness comunity 
>> can't get it together like the deaf community.
>> thanks
>> bb
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>
>>
>>> Other than description in sporting events Is there really a need for 
>>> this? I may have an unusual viewpoint here but I'm not sure that it is 
>>> really necessary or important. but then there is little on TV that holds 
>>> my attention.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge, there are no FCC regulations that stipulate the amount 
>>>> of described programming that TV channels aare required to broadcast. 
>>>> Advocacy groups for the deaf have succeeded in making closed captioning 
>>>> almost universal, yet advocacy groups for the blind can't seem to 
>>>> accomplish the same thing for described programming.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's kind of pointless that the FCC require a certain amount of 
>>>>> described
>>>>> programs if the providers are not providing access to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "A. Chew" <a1chew at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> this may not be so.
>>>>> Comcast does not know what sap is ...
>>>>> i have tried to turn it on and several of there customer service phone
>>>>> people have no idea what i am talking about....
>>>>>
>>>>> in some reading that i have done, the articles suggest that sap or 
>>>>> described
>>>>> programs are not supported on deal tv.   even the public broadcast sap 
>>>>> is
>>>>> not accessible via cable ....  based on my attempts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> if someone can work their way thru cable provides and sap...  i would 
>>>>> love
>>>>> to know the magic.
>>>>>
>>>>> - r.no
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "tony sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all usualluy the SAP{ is provided on the Public TV stations no 
>>>>>> matter
>>>>>> if you have cable or not.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First and foremost, is sap provided as part of your service?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Dhunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "electronics list" <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>>>> I recently purchased aVerizon FIOS cable box with service. I can't 
>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>> out how to turn on SAP, and have even had sighted help. If anyone 
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> experience with Verizon cable boxes, I would greatly appriciate any 
>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drew Hunthausen
>>>>>>> 714-296-7111
>>>>>>> Mailto: dhunthausen at gmail.com
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