[Electronics-talk] descriptive tv

[Ray Foret Jr]

And who, I wonder, is your providor?

Just diing to know.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac user!

On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just as an FYI, my cable provider uses TiVo for their DVR option, and
> the TiVo app for the iPhone is very accessible. I can check the TV
> guide, schedule recordings, set up a season pass, play recordings and so
> on. Obviously, it doesn't give me access to the TV's settings
> themselves, DVD menus and the like, but it pretty much does give me an
> accessible DVR.
> 
> On 12/12/12 23:14, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>> Hello,
>> So did you complain to comcast? I don't see why they couldn't have
>> carried over the dvs to their new
>> "little boxes". Yes, seems like things going digital has set back
>> accessibility. When I was growing up in the 1990s, we had cable, but no
>> digital tv. It did not exist! Nor did the lovely inaccessible on screen
>> menus on cable. Now you can scroll down the menu to see what is playing
>> at a given time, use DVR, use on-demand, and more. These menus are not
>> accessible to us.
>> Gone are the days when you only watched say an episode of Dancing with
>> the Stars at 8pm when it ran; you can often watch reruns on the internet
>> or on-demand or dvr it if you have that capability. Of course these
>> options require sighted help. I can operate the remote fine and turn
>> channels; but someone has to tell me the tv show listings so I know when
>> each show plays; and if I miss the show and wish to see it on-demand, I
>> got to get sighted help.
>> 
>> groan.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: A. Chew
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:55 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] descriptive tv
>> 
>> My experience, is that Comcast stopped sending the Descriptive signal to
>> these "little boxes" a few months ago.
>> it happened to be about the same time Comcast told subscribers that they
>> were going all digital.  it appears  that some of the old stations were
>> still both analog and digital.
>> 
>> some ware along the conversion, Descriptive Audio fell off the cable.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A. Chew in California
>> 
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "from tim aune" <timaune at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] descriptive tv
>> 
>> 
>>> Comcast offers digital converter boxes for old TV's that have a
>>> dedicated button for SAP.  These could be used with an anologue TV or
>>> an audio receiver that receives the old fashioned TV signals.  These
>>> converters only receive the basic service from channel 2 to 99 and a
>>> few extras like the HD local channels.
>>> Tim Aune
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: A. Chew
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:21 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] descriptive tv
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting topic.
>>>   in the past, prior to the conversion to digital TV ... Descriptive
>>> audit
>>> was available on the SAP (secondary audio program) option on your TV.
>>> 
>>> Since going to Digital, many Cable companies have kind of made this dis
>>> appear.
>>> 
>>> I have a formal complaint in to the FCC that Comcast is not providing
>>> Discriptive audito when it is available by the local TV stations.
>>> 
>>> the Comcast service and Help desk have no idea what discriptive audio is.
>>>   they tried to point at the TV manufacturer, then the TB station...
>>> so i
>>> asked, IF the signal were availabler, how would i receive it via
>>> Comcast...
>>>   no one knew how...  thus i have to conclude that it does not exist.
>>> 
>>> Due to my complaint to the FCC, i have an open issue with Comcast support
>>> and they promised to get back to me.... but i am not holding much hope.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ON this topic, i would just love for someone to prove me wrong...
>>> just tell me how to receive Discriptive audio using Comcast equipment.
>>> 
>>> A. Chew
>>> 
>>> .
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Bloodsaw"
>>> <lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] descriptive tv
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I am going to piggy back ashley's question.  How do you access
>>>> described over-the-air TV shows.  I know an episode of The Simpsons
>>>> was audio described, but I could not figure out how to get it.  I
>>>> believe I read somewhere it was through the SAP channel, but I could
>>>> not find this on my Vizio television.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know the tv companies are supposed to provide more descriptive
>>>>> service.
>>>>> I have cox cable here. How do I find out what is described? Also,
>>>>> are you able to turn it on independently, or i s it a menu?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have some vision but may not be able to read the menus due to the
>>>>> print and size and nystagmus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also is it possible to download described tv shows? I know you can
>>>>> get them on-demand with sighted help to run the menu. But I’m
>>>>> wondering if we can watch a past show online or via tv with the
>>>>> description. I want to see shows such as Cops, Modern Family and the
>>>>> Office described. I was hoping I might also find old tv shows
>>>>> described too such as Full House, Golden Girls and Fresh Prince.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashley
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