[Electronics-talk] Accessible Stove/oven

[Frida Aizenman]

I am not sure if it is good advise to rock the boat. What I mean is that, in 
the seventies, I was refused rental in the Oakwood apartments in Los Angeles 
because another really crazy young blind person spoiled it for the rest of 
us. I did not take them to court only because that was the time when the 
government job I had for 19 years came about.
If the land lord doesn't want to rent to a blind person, or if they want to 
get rid of one, there are always ways which look perfectly innocent, but are 
not.
Frida
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Stove/oven


> Gerald, you might want to research state and Federal housing laws as to
> how they deal with disability and accessibility. Some state access laws
> for housing are more liberal than the ADA. Don't just take the word of
> your landlord.  He has a vested interest in not spending any more money
> than he has to.  Here in CA, I have a friend who got her landlord to
> allow her to install a washer and dryer in her apartment because the
> community laundry room had machines that were not accessible to blind
> persons.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:46 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Stove/oven
>
> Gerald,
>
>
>
> I know that style of oven you are talking about. Have you tried using
> one of the long handled butane grill lighters to light the pilot light?
> This way, you can find the appropriate position for the lighter with
> everything cold, line up the lighter, unlit, click the lighter, and then
> turn on the gas.
> This method is far safer, and more reliable than using a match.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Stove/oven
>
>
>>
>> Well, I'm at the mercy of my landlord as far as my kitchen oven is
>> concerned, so I'm stuck with a 60 year old relic from the 1950's that
>> actually has knobs to adjust its stove top gas burners.  But because
> it is
>> an all-gas oven, the only way to light the pilot light if I want to
> use
>> the oven itself rather than the stove top is to grope around inside
> with a
>> lighted match and try to find the pilot hole without burning my
> fingers or
>> worse, burning down my kitchen,  I have actually discussed this safety
>
>> issue with my building manager, but was told that under New York City
> law,
>> the landlord is only required to furnish his tenants with a working
> oven,
>> not necessarily a safe or accessible one. And as long as my 60 year
> old
>> relic still works, he will not replace it. So except for the stove top
>
>> burners, I do all my cooking in my microwave, toaster oven or Foreman
>> grill.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <weckerly at i2k.com>
>> To: <lists at braddunsemusic.com>; "Discussion of accessible electronics
> and
>> appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Stove/oven
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Brad,
>>>
>>> It has been several years now since I had to replace mine. I did buy
> a
>>> smooth top and am glad I did. The laast I knew, you could get braille
>
>>> overlays fro Whirlpool et al. I bought Maytag, which Whirlpool now
> owns.
>>> The advantage of buying the manufacturer's braille overlays is that
> you
>>> get everything labelled as the print is and therefore how the manual
> will
>>> refer to things.
>>>
>>> I had a basic open coil unit for 29 years. Although I could operate
> most
>>> functions, I could not use the clock/timer and therefore had to have
> some
>>> else start the oven cleaning system. I still cannot use the
> clock/timer,
>>> but the automatic set feature on the oven means that I can press
> "clean"
>>> and then "automatic set" and the self cleaning system will run the
>>> default settings. Also, setting oven temperatures is more accurate if
> you
>>> press the correct buttons. The buttons are behind a screen, so
> braille
>>> labelling is really necessary. I had to get used to a smooth top too,
> but
>>> now I'd not want to go back to what I had before.
>>>
>>> GE used to make braille overlays available. They had stopped when I
> was
>>> shopping, but I have heard that they have resumed. I can't verify
> that
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I don't know what your experience could be with a big box store. I
> bought
>>> my range (and several other major appliances over the last 20 years
> or
>>> so) from a local family-owned business. They were willing, in all
> cases,
>>> to hold the equipment until the labels arrived. I should mention
> that,
>>> having the labels already brailled, made the use of sighted help go
> much
>>> more quickly because we didn't have to make the labels.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Evelyn
>>>
>>> At 11:25 PM 12/12/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Hey folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Our cook top on our oven decided to  crack in three directions
> tonight,
>>>>and
>>>>I'm in the market for a new one. This one was inaccessible but came
> with
>>>>the
>>>>house 11-years ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>With a need to purchase, now is my opportunity to get an accessible
> one.
>>>>I
>>>>am looking for any possible suggestions in  the event anyone was in a
>>>>similar need recently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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