[Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City

Thu Apr 11 17:56:24 UTC 2013

I dont know anything about it. A friend told me about it. Its spell iMove 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2013, at 13:29, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:

> Osman,
> 
> I'm not sure what imove is.  I googled for it and didn't find
> anything.
> 
> Can you enlighten us?
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:59:48AM -0400, Osman Koroma wrote:
>> Whats the different between Blind Square and Imove?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:48, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Bryan,
>>> 
>>> I would say blind square is a really good place to start.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:44:37AM -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> 
>>>> exactly, which one  is better for knowing what stores are close or what
>>>> street you are close to?
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>>>> <chaltain at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:53 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think there's a consensus on the best GPS app. I'd suggest giving
>>>>> the built in Maps app, Google Maps and MapQuest a try. They're all free.
>>>>> Navigon, which is not free, also gets mentioned quite a bit. It allows you
>>>>> to download and store maps on your phone, so if you're worried about data
>>>>> costs, this is a good option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are also half a dozen apps or more that give you additional
>>>>> information, such as points of interest around you, nearby cross streets,
>>>>> information on public transportation and so on. Maybe you could provide a
>>>>> better idea of what you're looking for or take a look at applevis.com for
>>>>> more information on navigation apps and reviews and opinions by blind
>>>>> users.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 04/11/2013 09:37 AM, Osman Koroma wrote:
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> Whats the best GPS app to use?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:32, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think anybody's map information includes information such as
>>>>>>> if there's a sidewalk.  This problem is compounded by a lack of
>>>>>>> information about contruction zones, etc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apps such as Google Maps will give you pedestrian routes to a
>>>>>>> destination.
>>>>>>> It is then up to us, as it is with a sighted pedestrian, to be aware
>>>>>>> of the route and any barriers pedestrians face while getting there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:51:32AM -0400, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The problem with all these GPS apps and devices is that they are
>>>>>>>> designed to
>>>>>>>> simply give you directions for the shortest route between two
>>>>>>>> points, not
>>>>>>>> necessarily the safest route.  If these devices were truly designed
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> blind pedestrians in mind, their primary route  suggestion,
>>>>>>>> regardless of
>>>>>>>> length, should include only streets with sidewals or walkways that are
>>>>>>>> isolated from traffic.    If no such route is available, then they
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> alert you to this fact.  When you use Google Maps to get directions
>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> two points, the walking directions include a warning, if
>>>>>>>> appropriate, that
>>>>>>>> some parts of the trip may involve walking on highways or other
>>>>>>>> areas that
>>>>>>>> might be hazardous.  GPS devices designed for the blind should do
>>>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>> After all, when you work with an O&M instructor, he will usually
>>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>> the safest route between two points even if it means walking out of
>>>>>>>> your way
>>>>>>>> to get to your destination.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione"
>>>>>>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:16 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Occasionally, I have asked Sendero GPS to create a pedestrian route,
>>>>>>>>> hoping it would give me a non-highway way to get somewhere, and it has
>>>>>>>>> told me to walk on the highway.  NOT!
>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" <kayezimpher at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am from Atlanta, and while that is no Manhattan, I know many blind
>>>>>>>>>> people who successfully use various gps apps on their Iphones. I have
>>>>>>>>>> only heard of one time that the gps advised a person to turn on
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> highway, even though the app was in pedestrian mode. That might
>>>>>>>>>> not have
>>>>>>>>>> ended well if he had not know where he was going.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Tracy Carcione ; Discussion of accessible electronics and
>>>>>>>>>> appliances
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have used Street Talk on a Pac Mate, in the distant past, and in
>>>>>>>>>> Philadelphia, I had the same problems with tall buildings.\
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> At 10:49 AM 4/10/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I work in midtown Manhattan.  I have Sendero GPS, running on a
>>>>>>>>>>> Braillenote PK.  I find it pretty unreliable in New York City,
>>>>>>>>>>> probably because of the many tall buildings.  It frequently
>>>>>>>>>>> says I'm 2
>>>>>>>>>>> blocks away from where I know I am, and heading in a different
>>>>>>>>>>> direction than I'm heading.  My question is, does this happen
>>>>>>>>>>> with all
>>>>>>>>>>> GPS in big cities, or is it because the GPS is running on a PK, not
>>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful system in the world? Would, say, IPhone GPS
>>>>>>>>>>> be more
>>>>>>>>>>> reliable in the big city?
>>>>>>>>>>> I am only interested in the big city aspect.  At home, in north
>>>>>>>>>>> Jersey, the Sendero and PK work reasonably well.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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