[Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City

Thu Apr 11 18:14:59 UTC 2013

jim

what is the info asked for after i hit the apps store button?
something about a apple id and/or password?
is this similar to a user/password for i-tunes?
Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City

> Osman,
>
> I'm not sure what imove is.  I googled for it and didn't find
> anything.
>
> Can you enlighten us?
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:59:48AM -0400, Osman Koroma wrote:
>> Whats the different between Blind Square and Imove?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:48, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Bryan,
>> >
>> > I would say blind square is a really good place to start.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:44:37AM -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> >> hi,
>> >>
>> >> exactly, which one  is better for knowing what stores are close or 
>> >> what
>> >> street you are close to?
>> >> Bryan Schulz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>> >> <chaltain at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:53 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I don't think there's a consensus on the best GPS app. I'd suggest 
>> >>> giving
>> >>> the built in Maps app, Google Maps and MapQuest a try. They're all 
>> >>> free.
>> >>> Navigon, which is not free, also gets mentioned quite a bit. It 
>> >>> allows you
>> >>> to download and store maps on your phone, so if you're worried about 
>> >>> data
>> >>> costs, this is a good option.
>> >>>
>> >>> There are also half a dozen apps or more that give you additional
>> >>> information, such as points of interest around you, nearby cross 
>> >>> streets,
>> >>> information on public transportation and so on. Maybe you could 
>> >>> provide a
>> >>> better idea of what you're looking for or take a look at applevis.com 
>> >>> for
>> >>> more information on navigation apps and reviews and opinions by blind
>> >>> users.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 04/11/2013 09:37 AM, Osman Koroma wrote:
>> >>>> Hello all,
>> >>>> Whats the best GPS app to use?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:32, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I don't think anybody's map information includes information such 
>> >>>>> as
>> >>>>> if there's a sidewalk.  This problem is compounded by a lack of
>> >>>>> information about contruction zones, etc.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Apps such as Google Maps will give you pedestrian routes to a
>> >>>>> destination.
>> >>>>> It is then up to us, as it is with a sighted pedestrian, to be 
>> >>>>> aware
>> >>>>> of the route and any barriers pedestrians face while getting there.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:51:32AM -0400, Gerald Levy wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem with all these GPS apps and devices is that they are
>> >>>>>> designed to
>> >>>>>> simply give you directions for the shortest route between two
>> >>>>>> points, not
>> >>>>>> necessarily the safest route.  If these devices were truly 
>> >>>>>> designed
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> blind pedestrians in mind, their primary route  suggestion,
>> >>>>>> regardless of
>> >>>>>> length, should include only streets with sidewals or walkways that 
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> isolated from traffic.    If no such route is available, then they
>> >>>>>> should
>> >>>>>> alert you to this fact.  When you use Google Maps to get 
>> >>>>>> directions
>> >>>>>> between
>> >>>>>> two points, the walking directions include a warning, if
>> >>>>>> appropriate, that
>> >>>>>> some parts of the trip may involve walking on highways or other
>> >>>>>> areas that
>> >>>>>> might be hazardous.  GPS devices designed for the blind should do
>> >>>>>> the same.
>> >>>>>> After all, when you work with an O&M instructor, he will usually
>> >>>>>> recommend
>> >>>>>> the safest route between two points even if it means walking out 
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> your way
>> >>>>>> to get to your destination.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Gerald
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione"
>> >>>>>> <carcione at access.net>
>> >>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> >>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:16 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Occasionally, I have asked Sendero GPS to create a pedestrian 
>> >>>>>>> route,
>> >>>>>>> hoping it would give me a non-highway way to get somewhere, and 
>> >>>>>>> it has
>> >>>>>>> told me to walk on the highway.  NOT!
>> >>>>>>> Tracy
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" 
>> >>>>>>> <kayezimpher at comcast.net>
>> >>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> >>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I am from Atlanta, and while that is no Manhattan, I know many 
>> >>>>>>>> blind
>> >>>>>>>> people who successfully use various gps apps on their Iphones. I 
>> >>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>> only heard of one time that the gps advised a person to turn on
>> >>>>>>>> to the
>> >>>>>>>> highway, even though the app was in pedestrian mode. That might
>> >>>>>>>> not have
>> >>>>>>>> ended well if he had not know where he was going.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:37 PM
>> >>>>>>>> To: Tracy Carcione ; Discussion of accessible electronics and
>> >>>>>>>> appliances
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I have used Street Talk on a Pac Mate, in the distant past, and 
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> Philadelphia, I had the same problems with tall buildings.\
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Dave
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> At 10:49 AM 4/10/2013, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> I work in midtown Manhattan.  I have Sendero GPS, running on a
>> >>>>>>>>> Braillenote PK.  I find it pretty unreliable in New York City,
>> >>>>>>>>> probably because of the many tall buildings.  It frequently
>> >>>>>>>>> says I'm 2
>> >>>>>>>>> blocks away from where I know I am, and heading in a different
>> >>>>>>>>> direction than I'm heading.  My question is, does this happen
>> >>>>>>>>> with all
>> >>>>>>>>> GPS in big cities, or is it because the GPS is running on a PK, 
>> >>>>>>>>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> the most powerful system in the world? Would, say, IPhone GPS
>> >>>>>>>>> be more
>> >>>>>>>>> reliable in the big city?
>> >>>>>>>>> I am only interested in the big city aspect.  At home, in north
>> >>>>>>>>> Jersey, the Sendero and PK work reasonably well.
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>> Tracy
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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