[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?

Tue Jul 14 17:13:26 UTC 2015

I'm not sure about others, but I do banking on my iPhone on a regular basis.  I find it much easier to do on my iphone when compared with trying to navigate web sites on the Nokia phones.

Jim

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 08:01:15PM -0400, Matthew Chao via Electronics-talk wrote:
> Personally, I still like the Nokia phones.  There are times when there's no
> substitute for good ol' fashioned physical buttons.  Case in point:  try
> doing automated banking or some other automated service on an iPhone.  Take
> too long and you're timed out.--Matthew Chao
> 
> At 06:53 PM 7/13/2015 -0500, you wrote:
> >Well, point taken, but all Pam said was that she wishes the Nokia was
> >still being updated so she didn't have to move to an iPhone. This simple
> >little statement lead to someone saying she was stuck in the past and
> >someone else saying it was sad because her rejection of new technology was
> >making her more disabled. These statements and this jumping to conclusions
> >seems more dramatic than anything I said.
> >
> >I'm all for answering questions and giving advice, but IMHO it sometimes
> >seems like a line is crossed and people start judging others and putting
> >others down because they made a different choice or don't need the same
> >solution someone else does. Not everyone needs a high end smart phone.
> >Some people just need a simple feature phone. That's just an example,
> >since we're obviously talking about more than a feature phone here since
> >we're talking OCR.
> >
> >I see what you're saying about gradually moving from one technology to the
> >other, but I'm not sure how much this happens in real life. When I moved
> >from my Nokia phone running Symbian and Talks to an iPhone, it was all or
> >nothing. Once I bought the iPhone, I was committed to making it work. I
> >wasn't going to move my sim card back and forth between the two devices.
> >Doing it when I did four years ago wouldn't be any different for me than
> >it would be doing it now.
> >
> >On 07/13/2015 09:22 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> >>Let's not be quite so dramatic here Christopher :)
> >>
> >>Many blind people, like many people generally, don't like change.
> >>However, it's worth pointing out the hanging back has benefits but also
> >>comes at a price.
> >>
> >>Specifically, sticking with a Symbian based Nokia phone that runs talks
> >>and an older version of the KNFB reader has the disadvantage that
> >>neither the hardware, operating system, screen reader, or KNFB reader
> >>are being actively developed.  So, one can use it until the hardware
> >>dies or they find that the phone, talks, or the knfb reader can no
> >>longer do what they rely on it to do.
> >>
> >>They'll then be left with the iPhone v. Android choice.  Whichever
> >>choice one makes, it will be a big change from Nokia and Talks.  In my
> >>opinion, this should be a slow and controlled change, not a changed one
> >>is forced to make quickly because some technology they rely on has
> >>stopped working.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 02:33:32AM -0500, Christopher Chaltain via
> >>Electronics-talk wrote:
> >>>I think it's sad when a blind person thinks that what works for them and the
> >>>choice they made applies to all blind people. Blind people should be allowed
> >>>to get what works for them and ask for the features they want without being
> >>>made to feel bad and like they're stuck in the dark ages.
> >>>
> >>>On 07/12/2015 04:58 PM, Poppa Bear via Electronics-talk wrote:
> >>>>Well, if she wants' to keep using it, as time goes on she may continue to
> >>>>wish that it was able to take advantage of newer apps made for the
> >>>>blind and
> >>>>as more time go by the learning curve will possibly continue to grow
> >>>>and the
> >>>>fear of change will grow exponentially as well. This is just my Two
> >>>>pennies,
> >>>>but I thought I would share because it is sad when us blind people don't go
> >>>>forward with techknoledgy and grow more disabled in new ways because we
> >>>>reject new tools that are available to make us more independent.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Dennis via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:46 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Dennis
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>No you don't.  if nokia works for someone you should use it.  They
> >>>>can still
> >>>>get nokia phones.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Poppa Bear via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:36 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Poppa Bear
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>Unfortunately Nokia is sinking about as quick as Black Berry was. It
> >>>>is kind
> >>>>of like trying to hold onto the old industrial 20 pound Perkins brailler
> >>>>instead of a Braille light, at some point you have to take a step forward
> >>>>out of the past.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:31 AM
> >>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >>>>Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>I wish they had an update for the nokia for people who don't want an
> >>>>iPhone.
> >>>>
> >>>>Pam.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:23 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Tracy Carcione
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>I am having better success reading stuff with the KNFB iPhone app
> >>>>than I was
> >>>>having with the old Nokia.
> >>>>Tracy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:12 PM
> >>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >>>>Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>I have not gotten my phone to read a restaurant menu yet, and I've had it
> >>>>since 2013.  I have the n95 with the Kyrzweil.  It reads some things fine,
> >>>>but I haven't gotten it to read the restaurant menu.  Pam.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:26 AM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Tracy Carcione
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>I've used it several times to read a restaurant menu.  I think it misses
> >>>>some things, but I know a lot more than I would otherwise.  Beats the heck
> >>>>out of the "What do you have?"  "What do you want?" circle.
> >>>>Tracy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:59 PM
> >>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >>>>Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>It is meant for mobile use, i. e. reading handouts at conferences, scanning
> >>>>mail, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:28 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Star Gazer
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank you.
> >>>>Can it read books or is it more meant for packages like "cook this package
> >>>>of chicken nugets for x amout of time and y temperature"?
> >>>>Caan you try it out before buying?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:23 PM
> >>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >>>>Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>It uses the iPhone and its camera to scan and read printed material out
> >>>>loud. It is normally $99 but if you buy it before july 10 it is $74.95.
> >>>>
> >>>>Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-talk
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:13 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Star Gazer
> >>>>Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Electronics-talk] knfb reader app?
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi folks.
> >>>>
> >>>>I accidentally blew away David Andrews' note on the reduced price for the
> >>>>KNFB reader. Can somebody get me smart, what does this app do and how much
> >>>>is it now? How long will the sale last?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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