[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?

Thu Jul 16 02:11:55 UTC 2015

Technically you're correct, tactile buttons aren't needed, but then 
smart phones and OCR programs aren't needed either. Just because tactile 
buttons aren't needed doesn't mean someone can't prefer or wish for 
tactile buttons. I just read where RIM is coming out with an Android 
based Blackberry phone that will have a slide out keyboard for those who 
want a tactile keyboard, so at least someone thinks there are people out 
there, and not just the blind, who would like a tactile keyboard. I know 
several experienced smart phone users, blind and sighted, who would 
prefer a smart phone with a keyboard if they could still find them. Some 
people feel they type faster on a tactile keyboard. I know there are 
times when I miss tactile keys, such as when I want to call someone in a 
loud place, and I can't hear VoiceOver, or maybe I have to hold the 
phone up to my ear while trying to enter a phone number on the virtual 
keypad. Bottom line for me, is I don't think there's anything wrong with 
someone wanting a different form factor for their phone.

On 07/15/2015 12:31 PM, David Evanss via Electronics-talk wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Buttons are not needed as the buttons are virtual today.
> The use of Voice Over, with its system of finger gestures is used to move
> around the touch screen and as your finger passes over an icon the phone
> reads it aloud to you.
> Tapping the button activates the option and just flicking your finger up,
> down, right or left moves the cursor across the screen, from icon to icon.
> Double tapping on the icon activates it and moves you from one screen to
> another or from one level in a menu to another.
> Phyisical buttons are not neded.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:56 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> Because the Nokia phone at least has buttons.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 1:04 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> Why? The Nokia phones aren't being made anymore. The OS died years ago, so
> why support a product when the hardware and OS are no longer being
> manufactured or supported.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:31 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> I wish they had an update for the nokia for people who don't want an iPhone.
> Pam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:23 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> I am having better success reading stuff with the KNFB iPhone app than I was
> having with the old Nokia.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:12 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> I have not gotten my phone to read a restaurant menu yet, and I've had it
> since 2013.  I have the n95 with the Kyrzweil.  It reads some things fine,
> but I haven't gotten it to read the restaurant menu.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:26 AM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> I've used it several times to read a restaurant menu.  I think it misses
> some things, but I know a lot more than I would otherwise.  Beats the heck
> out of the "What do you have?"  "What do you want?" circle.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:59 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> It is meant for mobile use, i. e. reading handouts at conferences, scanning
> mail, etc.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:28 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
>
> Thank you.
> Can it read books or is it more meant for packages like "cook this package
> of chicken nugets for x amout of time and y temperature"?
> Caan you try it out before buying?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:23 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] knfb reader app?
>
> It uses the iPhone and its camera to scan and read printed material out
> loud. It is normally $99 but if you buy it before july 10 it is $74.95.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:13 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Electronics-talk] knfb reader app?
>
> Hi folks.
>
> I accidentally blew away David Andrews' note on the reduced price for the
> KNFB reader. Can somebody get me smart, what does this app do and how much
> is it now? How long will the sale last?
>
>
>
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