[Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Sun May 10 00:00:18 UTC 2015
With great respect, I humbly ask if this discussion might better be taken to
BlindTalk? IMO we're getting rather far afield from consumer electronics
which is the topic of this list.
Mike Freeman
-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 4:24 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Cc: cheez
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
My mistake. I forgot about gift cards. I have a bus pass that's smooth on
both sides. So I stuck a round label on one side to know which side has the
strip.
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
> Vince,
> I had mentioned having sighted help so you don't put a label over the
> magnetic strip only because I had also mentioned gift cards which often
> don't have any tacktile markings to note which side is front and which is
> the back. I only label my cards with the name of the specific card as I
> put
> all the other info on my note taker that I can refer to when making an on
> line purchase. When I am at a store I do not need the extra info.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
> Why not place the dyno tape above the number on the front of the card,
> Drew?
> The backs of most cards contain the signature strip, the magnetic strip
> and
> a phone number to call in case you lose or damage the card.
> The 7-digits that appear are the last 4 of the account, and the last 3 is
> the security code.
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
>
>> Barb,
>> What I do for my credit cards as well as i.d. cards or gift cards is to
>> Braille a label on the labeling tape you can purchase from any of the
>> blind
>> supply stores on line. I usually have a friend or family member help me
>> with
>> this so I don't put the label over the magnetic strip or some important
>> information.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Barb O'Connor via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 10:34 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Barb O'Connor
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>> Will the KNFBReader read that number? I don't have it so am curious. I,
>> too,
>> am fortunate to have friends and family that I can trust so I don't think
>> too much about that. When I get my new card, I take a 4 by 6 index card,
>> write down the name of credit card, account number, expiration date, the
>> all-important security code and, last, the customer service number. I've
>> just gotten so used to doing this that I don't even think twice about it.
>> The one thing I don't like about not having a braille card is that if I'm
>> shopping by myself, I have to ask someone else to get the card I want out
>> of
>> my wallet. I usually try to remember to do that before I leave the house
>> and
>> put it where I can locate it without difficulty but, sometimes I do
>> forget.
>>
>> Barb
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>>
>> Well, I think the blind have bigger issues then getting the security
>> code printed in braille on people's credit cards. I'm not saying this
>> isn't an important issue, but I don't think it should be the number one
>> issue being addressed by the blindness advocacy organizations. I'm also
>> not as defeatist as Gerald and just assume that the advocacy groups
>> haven't and aren't considering what to do about this issue. You may not
>> like the answer, but a solution like the KNFB Reader does tell me that
>> the advocacy groups are at least attempting something to address this
>> and other related issues. Let's be honest, even if the advocacy groups
>> were publicly addressing this issue, Gerald would be telling us how the
>> credit card companies don't care, won't do anything anyway and all of
>> the laws to force them to address this issue are too weak. Gerald always
>> has a reason why trying to change something and making something better
>> for someone else is a waste of time. I always find it ironic how much
>> negativity and selfishness is found on this NFB sponsored list.
>>
>> On 05/08/2015 03:52 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>> > Gerald, when I had my brailled cards, I thought we had at least one
>> > barrier licked. But it seems they found the brailled cards'
>> production
>> > too costly.
>> > The whole thing makes no sense to me at all. And apparently the
>> > blindness advocacy groups don't care about those that don't have a
>> KNFB
>> > Reader or a trusted sighted person--like Jim Barbour stated in his
>> posting.
>> > So come down off your mountain Jim and get in touch with reality.
>> Some
>> > aren't as fortune as others. I don't have the KNFB Reader as of yet.
>> > Hope that helps you understand the problem here.
>> > Vince
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk"
>> > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:41 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Yes, the inability to read the security code without having a sighted
>> >> person physically pick up the card and read it is a big problem.
>> What
>> >> are the blindness advocacy groups doing to address this issue?
>> >> Nothing, as usual.
>> >>
>> >> Gerald
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Connor via
>> >> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:32 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> So, how do you get that all-important security number then? You'll
>> >>> once again have to wait till someone sighted whom you trust is
>> >>> available to help you as the credit card companies or banks won't
>> >>> help you at all. It would have been nice if they would have added
>> >>> that, too.
>> >>>
>> >>> Barb
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane Vlasoff via
>> Electronics-talk
>> >>> To: electronics talk n f b list serve
>> >>> Cc: Diane Vlasoff
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:54 PM
>> >>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I told you all I would keep you up-to-date. My ATM card in braille
>> >>> arrived today!
>> >>> They have my account number my name and the expiration date on them
>> >>> it doesn't happen. It doesn't have the security number on the back
>> >>> ground unfortunately but this is great! Also please excuse any odd
>> >>> things in this message I'm using Siri.
>> >>>
>> >>> Diane Vlasoff
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