[Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here

cheez cheez at cox.net
Sun May 10 00:09:36 UTC 2015


Eh, Mike, what's the BlindTalk list's email address?
Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here


> With great respect, I humbly ask if this discussion might better be taken 
> to
> BlindTalk? IMO we're getting rather far afield from consumer electronics
> which is the topic of this list.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 4:24 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
> My mistake.  I forgot about gift cards.  I have a bus pass that's smooth 
> on
> both sides.  So I stuck a round label on one side to know which side has 
> the
>
> strip.
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
>
>> Vince,
>> I had mentioned having sighted help so you don't put a label over the
>> magnetic strip only because I had also mentioned gift cards which often
>> don't have any tacktile markings to note which side is front and which is
>> the back. I only label my cards with the name of the specific card as I
>> put
>> all the other info on my note taker that I can refer to when making an on
>> line purchase. When I am at a store I do not need the extra info.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:42 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>> Why not place the dyno tape above the number on the front of the card,
>> Drew?
>> The backs of most cards contain the signature strip, the magnetic strip
>> and
>> a phone number to call in case you lose or damage the card.
>> The 7-digits that appear are the last 4 of the account, and the last 3 is
>> the security code.
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>>
>>> Barb,
>>> What I do for my credit cards as well as i.d. cards or gift cards is to
>>> Braille a label on the labeling tape you can purchase from any of the
>>> blind
>>> supply stores on line. I usually have a friend or family member help me
>>> with
>>> this so I don't put the label over the magnetic strip or some important
>>> information.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Barb O'Connor via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 10:34 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Barb O'Connor
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>>
>>> Will the KNFBReader read that number? I don't have it so am curious. I,
>>> too,
>>> am fortunate to have friends and family that I can trust so I don't 
>>> think
>>> too much about that. When I get my new card, I take a 4 by 6 index card,
>>> write down the name of credit card, account number, expiration date, the
>>> all-important security code and, last, the customer service number. I've
>>> just gotten so used to doing this that I don't even think twice about 
>>> it.
>>> The one thing I don't like about not having a braille card is that if 
>>> I'm
>>> shopping by myself, I have to ask someone else to get the card I want 
>>> out
>>> of
>>> my wallet. I usually try to remember to do that before I leave the house
>>> and
>>> put it where I can locate it without difficulty but, sometimes I do
>>> forget.
>>>
>>> Barb
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>>>  To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>  Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>>>  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:31 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>>
>>>
>>>  Well, I think the blind have bigger issues then getting the security
>>>  code printed in braille on people's credit cards. I'm not saying this
>>>  isn't an important issue, but I don't think it should be the number one
>>>  issue being addressed by the blindness advocacy organizations. I'm also
>>>  not as defeatist as Gerald and just assume that the advocacy groups
>>>  haven't and aren't considering what to do about this issue. You may not
>>>  like the answer, but a solution like the KNFB Reader does tell me that
>>>  the advocacy groups are at least attempting something to address this
>>>  and other related issues. Let's be honest, even if the advocacy groups
>>>  were publicly addressing this issue, Gerald would be telling us how the
>>>  credit card companies don't care, won't do anything anyway and all of
>>>  the laws to force them to address this issue are too weak. Gerald 
>>> always
>>>  has a reason why trying to change something and making something better
>>>  for someone else is a waste of time. I always find it ironic how much
>>>  negativity and selfishness is found on this NFB sponsored list.
>>>
>>>  On 05/08/2015 03:52 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>  > Gerald, when I had my brailled cards, I thought we had at least one
>>>  > barrier licked.  But it seems they found the brailled cards'
>>> production
>>>  > too costly.
>>>  > The whole thing makes no sense to me at all.  And apparently the
>>>  > blindness advocacy groups don't care about those that don't have a
>>> KNFB
>>>  > Reader or a trusted sighted person--like Jim Barbour stated in his
>>> posting.
>>>  > So come down off your mountain Jim and get in touch with reality.
>>> Some
>>>  > aren't as fortune as others.  I don't have the KNFB Reader as of yet.
>>>  > Hope that helps you understand the problem here.
>>>  > Vince
>>>  >
>>>  > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk"
>>>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>  > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>  > Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>>  > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:41 PM
>>>  > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Yes, the inability to read the security code without having a 
>>> sighted
>>>  >> person physically pick up the card and read it is a big problem.
>>> What
>>>  >> are the blindness advocacy groups doing to address this issue?
>>>  >> Nothing, as usual.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Gerald
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Connor via
>>>  >> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>  >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>  >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>  >> Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>>>  >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:32 PM
>>>  >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>> So, how do you get that all-important security number then?  You'll
>>>  >>> once again have to wait till someone sighted whom you trust is
>>>  >>> available to help you as the credit card companies or banks won't
>>>  >>> help you at all.  It would have been nice if they would have added
>>>  >>> that, too.
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Barb
>>>  >>>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Diane Vlasoff via
>>> Electronics-talk
>>>  >>>  To: electronics talk n f b list serve
>>>  >>>  Cc: Diane Vlasoff
>>>  >>>  Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:54 PM
>>>  >>>  Subject: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  I told you all I would keep you up-to-date. My ATM card in braille
>>>  >>> arrived today!
>>>  >>>  They have my account number my name and the expiration date on 
>>> them
>>>  >>> it doesn't happen. It doesn't have the security number on the back
>>>  >>> ground unfortunately but this is great! Also please excuse any odd
>>>  >>> things in this message I'm using Siri.
>>>  >>>
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