[Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics BrailleLabeler

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Fri Jan 1 16:28:50 UTC 2016 

Pam,

Sometimes the clear Dymo tape looks white when it is on the roll because of
the backing that is on it.  Also, some that is clear will make the dots
appear white.  If you bought any that turned out to be white, have someone
look at it when it is stuck to something in case it is actually clear.

Best regards,

Steve

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Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics
BrailleLabeler

The rough narrow stuff is usually the stuff that is not clear.  You can only

get the clear stuff from places that sell blindness stuff.  I know, because 
I have gone into ofice supply places and asked for clear dymo tape, and they

say they give me clear tape, and sighted people I ask tell me it's white. 
Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:55 AM
To: Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics 
BrailleLabeler

Many years ago my Mother bought me a Perkins brailler it's a 1970 model
that has had repair and upgrades.  For labeling on tape a purchase of
the Perkins dymo tape attachment costing about $30 I think solves the
tape labeling problem over here.  Unfortunately dymo tape is no longer
as good as it once was.  Originally, the tape had a glossy finish and
was half inch width and thicker.  Now the tape is narrower has a rough
finish on braille reading surface and isn't as thick as the tape I got
with a dymo tape gun back in the 1960's.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015, Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:28:45
> From: Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Brent Harding <brent at hostany.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics
>     BrailleLabeler
>
> Is this the same thing as the Six Dot I heard of on Accessible World? If 
> so, their presentation suggests that even if you bought the USB keyboard, 
> you will get grade 1 braille when using that since it sounds like this 
> thing doesn't have the smarts to do braille translation. As far as speech 
> recognition goes, I can see why that wouldn't be included. It would take 
> on the order of a computer processor in power to do that accurately, not 
> to mention that they would have to license Dragon or some other 
> technology, which would likely increase the price further. The reason we 
> have speech recognition in our phones is because Apple and Google have 
> remote servers at their disposal to do the hard work.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheez via Electronics-Talk" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 PM
> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics 
> BrailleLabeler
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>
>> Well, I've received the electronic braille labeler from ProxTalker, and 
>> here is what I think of this gadget.
>> Perhaps I'll tell you what I like about it first.
>>
>> It makes beautiful braille.  The dots are well prominent.  I like the way

>> they feel when reading.  And since metal pins are used for the embossing,

>> duration should be much longer than plastic pins.
>>
>> The weight isn't too bad.  Probably in the neighborhood of a Pac Mate.
>>
>> I like the "done" beep the unit issues when it is finished embossing.  I 
>> also like the fact that the unit will emit a series of beeps if it is 
>> turned on accidentally when in a backpack.  I had this happen to me once.

>> It took me a couple of minutes to realize where the beeps were coming 
>> from. Since the power button is a toggle switch, the unit can be turned 
>> on rather easily.
>>
>> Now since I didn't purchase the qwerty keyboard the company offers, I 
>> don't know how it performs when using that peripheral.  But I assume the 
>> result wouldn't be any different.
>> Now what I don't like about the electronic labeler.
>>
>> The shape.  I find the kidney shape rather odd.  I expected it to be 
>> rectangular.  Even oblong would have been fine.  But kidney?  Even the 
>> lady that took my order said she was taken aback when she saw the shape 
>> for the first time.
>>
>> The speed.  It is surprisingly slow.  I thought it would be faster than 
>> what it is.  When I brailled a label with my granddude's name on it, it 
>> took about 5 seconds to finish the 3 letters I wrote!  To reiterate what 
>> I said above.  I don't think a qwerty keyboard would speed up the 
>> performance.  And speaking of the qwerty keyboard.  I was disappointed 
>> that a micro USB adaptor wasn't included.  But I guess they get a 
>> percentage from Dell for the sale of the qwerty keyboard they offer.
>>
>> They say a carrying case can be used.  However, no such case exist for 
>> the labeler.  I was told there is one in development.  Availability is to

>> be announced.
>>
>> There are 2 hooks for a neck strap, which the company does not offer 
>> either.
>>
>> Although the unit can run on ac power, the ac adaptor is not included in 
>> the package.
>>
>> I found it queer that the unit has an audio jack installed.  I asked why,

>> and I was told that other features were under consideration during the 
>> production.  But nothing never came to fruition.
>> [My assumption is, an MP3 player was one feature.  I would have suggested

>> a microphone jack for speech input.]
>>
>> I assume, since there weren't any braille or audio instructions for the 
>> unit, this was geared more for a non-braille reader/user.  The manual has

>> a chart showing how to make braille letters.
>>
>> Overall, I like the labeler.  I don't have to worry about label 
>> imperfections.  However, I feel, that for $599 ac and USB adaptors should

>> have been included.  I also think a lock button would have been nice to 
>> prevent accidental activations.  One may not hear the beep if one is in a

>> noisy environment.  I remove one battery when it is in my backpack.
>> Another thing about the price.  At last check, a brailler cost about $200

>> more than this labeler.  but that's technology.
>>
>> So that's it.  I have nothing more to say.  I do use it at work.  That's 
>> what I got it for anyway.
>>
>> Vince
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