[Electronics-Talk] phone service through router

Sat Dec 22 01:11:50 UTC 2018

Physical bell systems used 25 volts of power that came in over the
copper land line to ring along with running the other phone's functions.
 I know this since I had a computer on line using a modem when one of my
relatives had verizon place a trouble call to that number.  It cost
something like $1,000 to get the computer repaired and this was using an
external modem.  In talking to verizon about this incident I was told
when trouble calls get placed 25 volts of power gets sent to the
particular phone number.  Router ports put out less voltage than that
and probably too little to run the other phone functions and ring  a
physical bell.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, Christopher Gilland via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 11:01:22
> From: Christopher Gilland via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Christopher Gilland <clgilland07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] phone service through router
>
> So, given that I used to run my own PBX asterisk system which was voice over
> IP, and also may I add administrated/configured it from absolutely ground 0,
> I'm curious why having an electronic ringer vs. having a physical bell would
> matter? I just don't see how that's logical. I'm not arguing what's being
> said. I'm just trying to better educate myself and better understand you all's
> reason of thinking here.
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
> On 12/19/2018 09:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure my regular landline phone has an electronic ringer.  It's
> > connected to the cable modem, and rings fine.
> > I do remember some trouble with the phone and router where the router added
> > a loud noise to the phone signal.  I had to buy some kind of damper to stop
> > it.  But, eventually, we were able to get rid of most of the dampers.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:25 AM
> > To: David Waybright via Electronics-Talk
> > Cc: Jude DaShiell; David Waybright
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] phone service through router
> >
> > Hi David, thanks for this information.  If I'm not much mistaken the
> > modern cordless phones use electronic ringers.  The old phone that was
> > connected had a physical bell in it.  I'm living in a house so probably
> > will get me a cordless phone system with a base station to attach to the
> > router if that will even work.
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, David Waybright via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 07:24:04
> >> From: David Waybright via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> To: "electronics-talk at nfbnet.org" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: David Waybright <link at pt-solutions.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] phone service through router
> >>
> >> The phone port on the routers or cable modems are NOT RJ45 they are RJ11.
> >>
> >>
> >> As for ringing, NO phone with a physical bell will work with a VoIP
> > system, router, or cable modem.  you need a phone that has a electronically
> > produced ringer for it to work.
> >>
> >> Another suggestion is to call the phone and when you expect it should be
> > ringing, pick it up to see if a call went thru. if not you might have a
> > problem other then the ringer not working!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> David Eugene Waybright
> >> CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician
> >>
> >> IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist
> >> CyberCore Technologies
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> >> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:20:02 -0500
> >> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> >> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] phone service through router
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> >> The router I have has an RJ45 port on the back to plug in phone equipment.
> >> I had tried using an old phone and by old the phone was made back in the
> >> 1960's.  Though that was able to call out, it couldn't ring when an
> >> incoming phone call tried to connect.  Probably since the routers do not
> >> put out 25 volts which is what verizon puts out on their traditional
> >> copper wire connected to landline phones that connect into the wall.
> >> I'm curious do phones or phone systems exist that will ring with lower
> >> voltages sent through RJ45 ports on routers?
> >>
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