[Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

Julie C. Vogt jcvogt at pressenter.com
Thu Nov 6 18:50:35 UTC 2008


It happened quite a while ago.  You may not have remembered.  I think I made 
a good few points but if you're a programmed Christian it probably got past 
you.


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> What is the point of this message?  I don't remember anyone being run off 
> this list.  I also wouldn't call the Christians on this list "bible 
> thumpers" as that is an unfair and biased generalization.
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>   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, 
> who don't walk according to the flesh,
> but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
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>> People do not agree but because they do not agree doesn't make them 
>> totally wrong.
>>
>> As I understand it, the Communities of Faith was supposed to be a forum 
>> for people of all religions.  But what happened when that lady first was 
>> on this list who confessed to being a Catholic lesbian?  Everybody that 
>> thought they are James Dobson's secret identity ran her off this list and 
>> not in charge of it.
>>
>> How do you think Jesus is going to settle people's hearts when we get to 
>> heaven "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye?
>>
>> The voters have spoken.  In this country it is time for a change.  When 
>> the African-American Gospel stations play, "A Change is Gonna Come" by 
>> Sam Cook like it was the latest Gospel song, that ought to tell people 
>> something.
>>
>> A lot of e-mail I got was down-right phobic racism and there's no two 
>> ways of looking at that.  Obama thanked McCane for a good fight and for 
>> being gracious in his acceptance speech.
>>
>> But here on this list, I find everybody has their own select Bible 
>> reading and that is it.  You know where I was reading this morning?  2 
>> Kings 6 where there was a famine in the land of Israel.  The Prophet of 
>> God said basically that within the next 24 hours, there would be low 
>> prices on badly needed food, just to paraphrase.  It made me thinkof Rev. 
>> where it says very plainly that "The fearful and unbelieving God will 
>> judge."  Perfect love casts out all fear also is another Scripture.
>>
>> Some one in the crowd of Israelites didn't believe the prophecy and
>> the Prophet of God that the unbeliever would see it with his own eyes, 
>> but would not be a part of it.  That man was trampled to death.
>>
>> Phobia isn't going to get you anywhere these next four years, and neither 
>> is being a sore loser.  People who were leaders in the Democrat party 
>> that had their phone conversations illegally listened in on in the past 
>> four years at least learned that much.
>>
>> Maybe now we will have some dialog that isn't just 100% "my way or the 
>> highway Bible thumping.  Zero tolerance didn't win the election for you 
>> because your lack of love and a few other things were showing.  Learn 
>> from it.
>>
>>
>> "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human 
>> soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>
>> "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, 
>> Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>
>> "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their 
>> contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>
>> "Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>
>> "No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push, 
>> 1976.
>>
>> "With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can be 
>> reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic," the Late 
>> Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation of the Blind.
>>
>> Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>
>>
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