[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

Fri Feb 12 21:41:08 UTC 2010

Debbie,

I'm with you totally.  Since moving here to Nebraska to a church 
where only the old hymns and gospel songs are sung, I have so much 
more peach.  In fact, everyone stays in the sanctuary through the 
whole of all our services, which I believe helps the young people to 
be more deeply grounded in the Word, and in their knowledge of their 
Lord, when they finally accept Jesus as their Saviour.

We are only separated by age during our Sunday School time, and there 
is no discussion for us to share our ignorance; we are taught by a 
very godly man.  I'm thrilled to be rid of the inner turmoil over the 
music, and I have been blessed to learn more hymns and gospel songs 
than I ever knew existed! Much of the new music is loud, shallow and 
repetitive.

Now, don't you all email me privately, or email this list to tell me 
that you love the new music. That's your choice, and this is mine! Smile.

Blessings,

Linda

At 06:44 AM 2/12/2010, you wrote:
>I am a little worried about "styles of worship."  I think all of us 
>old geezers need to be around young people and to respect, if not 
>necessarily appreciate, their music and culture, to the degree that 
>it does not conflict with Scripture.  Also, the you ng people need 
>to learn to sing the old hymns and to understand and respect their 
>elders.  Scripture teaches that the older men and women must teach 
>the younger, and how can they do that if they never mix?  I don't 
>see anything in Scripture that says that heaven will be segregated 
>by age, race, nationality, or anything else?
>
>Debbie Brown
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Lordi" <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com>
>To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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>Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
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>"How some people practice the faith or put it into practice does not 
>change the content of what the faith is."
>
>This is a great truth that sadly many fail to realize.
>Thanks Father.
>Frank
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>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
>To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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>Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:06:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
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>One of the great accomplishments of Vatican II was recognizing that 
>the Church is made up of people of very different tastes and gifts 
>and ways of wanting to worship. Many individual parishes offer a 
>range of Mass styles - and if you cannot find one parish that has 
>something you like, there are bound to be others. In the same way, 
>more churches are now offering Masses in different languages - 
>French, Latin, Spanish, Creole, etc. Some like guitar music - some 
>like incense and organs - some like quiet.
>
>It is important to keep in mind the difference between styles of 
>worship - and that includes the personality of the priest and the 
>preaching - and the content, which is the credal content of the 
>faith. I am a Catholic, firmly and committed. Do I agree with each 
>and every policy of the Roman Catholic Church? Nope. If I am ever in 
>a position to help create change, I do. But the basics of my faith 
>do not change according to whether I like the pastor, approve of the 
>music, or disagree with the preaching or the way an individual or 
>even a group of individuals is treated. How some people practice the 
>faith or put it into practice does not change the content of what the faith is.
>
>We are all sinners - we all fail - and I try hard not to put myself 
>in the position of judging (something Jesus warned against a lot). 
>My call is to live the faith as best I can - and to forgive those 
>who fail, as I hope they will forgive me.
>Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>Chairman
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>From: Norma Crosby <norma.crosby at gmail.com>
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>Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 2:34:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
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>I have been watching this thread for a few days without making comment.
>However, I guess I have two to make. Understand that I am just a spiritual
>seeker. I hold no position in any church hierarchy, so here goes.
>
>First, I am hearing some people suggest that you find a different church,
>and I would agree that if you are uncomfortable in your parish, you should
>look for a new church home. That is not a recommendation to leave the
>Catholic Church. Rather, it is a suggestion that you search and find a
>congregation where you are more comfortable.
>
>Second, I see others have suggested that you leave your current faith
>altogether, and I think that sounds radical unless you are truly unhappy
>with the church as a whole. I am not a Catholic, although I have an interest
>in learning more about Catholicism, but I would point out that you will find
>negative aspects of almost any faith you choose. You will find people in
>virtually every denomination who are more narrow minded than you would like,
>and you probably will run across discrimination on the basis of your
>blindness as well. This is a togh decision, and I will be praying for you as
>you make.
>
>Best regards,
>Norma Crosby
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Yes, RJ. I'm on Facebook under www.facebook.com/tallygirl. Check me out.
>>Beth
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