[Faith-talk] Farewell.

[David Andrews]

Joshua:

I will say a few things here, to you and others -- although I 
probably shouldn't.  I am not the moderator, but I am the list owner, 
and ultimately responsible for everything that happens here.

I will say that the majority of the list traffic is not what was 
intended by the founders of the list.  They intended this list to be 
a place where blind people could discuss their blindness and how it 
impacted on their religious observances.  Specifically, people were 
finding that people in their churches were not treating them as 
equals, because of their blindness.

For some time the list seems to primarily be a religious debating 
society.  While I am not in favor of this -- I have nearly 200 lists 
to run and watch, the division is not mine, and it can run its list 
as it sees fit, as long as basic rules aren't violated.  The list 
description is pretty general, and the current list use is 
permissible under it, as far as I can see.

You don't want to hear it, probably, but it is not your beliefs that 
were objected too, but how you pushed them on people.

Now, here is my honest opinion -- that some people won't like, and I 
reiterate that is just my opinion.  It seems to me that some 
religious people know that they have the answer.  Either it is from 
faith, or God or whoever has spoken to them, but they feel they have 
the answer for everyone.  Either they feel compelled to tell people, 
convert them etc., or feel the Bible instructs them to do so, so they go forth.

And ... this of course rubs some people the other way, and others 
have slightly different beliefs.

I have to say that I don't always find Christians to be very tolerant 
of others and their beliefs, and I would urge you to remember that 
everybody doesn't believe as you do, and they aren't necessarily wrong.

I will probably burn in hell -- so be it.  Whatever our beliefs, or 
lack thereof, we still share much more than is different between 
us.  Especially because we are blind, and many of us belong to the NFB.

David Andrews, List Owner


At 11:56 AM 6/14/2011, you wrote:
>It breaks my heart, that Linda took my posts the wrong way.
>She's the main reason.
>I'm not trying to get the big head, and act like I knew it all.
>I discovered this through intense studying of God's word, and I was
>trying to share the revelation.
>It's all a part of growing in God, and some people, I'm afraid don't
>want to study the scriptures that I've laid out there.
>I'll stay if things clear up, and lighten up.
>I want to see more stuff on my beliefs allowed on here, and I want the
>moderators to understand my heart and intent.
>All beliefs are accepted here, and I would appreciate it, if my
>beliefs would also be accepted.
>Blessings, Joshua
>
>On 6/14/11, Alan Wheeler <awheeler65 at windstream.net> wrote:
> > Joshua,
> > If I gave you the impression you're not welcome here, I apologize. That was
> > never my intent. No one on this list should have done or said anything to
> > make you feel unwelcome, and if they did, that really isn't fair.
> >
> > Please accept my invitation to stay, if you would.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 AM
> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Farewell.
> >
> > Well, I want to let you know, that you haven't offended me.
> > everything's okay between us.
> > I'll ride this thread out, and then unsubscribe when I get another forward.
> > I would like to talk to everyone on this list, and hear from them.
> > Blessings, Joshua
> >
> > On 6/14/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Joshua,
> >>   I, for one, am sad to see you go.  I hope I never made you feel
> >> unwelcome or unwanted-if I did I sincerely appologize.  Your beliefs
> >> make a lot of sense, you obviously know your Bible, and I'm sad you
> >> were made to feel unapreciated here  See you at convention, and God
> >> bless.
> >>   Kirt
> >>
> >> On 6/14/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> >>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
> >>> It's almost been a year, since I subscribed to this list.
> >>> I've enjoyed my time here, but have found that I'm not welcome here.
> >>> It seems that my beliefs aren't welcome.
> >>> I'm unsubscribing from this list.
> >>> I love everyone of you, and I want to leave you in peace.
> >>> It's been nice knowing all of you, and I hope to see you at
> >>> convention, next year, but I'm not posting anymore.
> >>> Just one more thought about my beliefs before I go.
> >>> Revelation 4:2, tells us that there's only one throne in Heaven, and
> >>> one sits on that throne.
> >>> You can't have 3 people on one throne.
> >>> I wanted to share that, in my other discussions, but they got cut off.
> >>> I'm leaving you with this.
> >>> Blessings, and goodbye.
> >>> Joshua Lester