[Faith-talk] Farewell.

Tue Jun 14 20:56:32 UTC 2011

Hi all, and Joshua and Niki,
What Dave said, is so true. The basic premis of Christians having 
differences and the squabbling which results, applies to life in general. 
You can be sure that Satan is clicking his tongue with glee, to see us and 
others fight like this. You ought to know, that unles the Holy Spirit 
prepares the heart, there is no hope of a lasting persuation.  For example, 
I could mumble a prayer of repentance and not mean a word of it. Would I be 
saved? Of course not. The reason being, I wasn't sincere. But thankfully, I 
have been walking with the Lord for many years; some of which I was very 
fervent, some of the time not so much. We really need discernment when it 
comes to stating your beliefs and convictions.
No one person or group has a corner on the truth. Only a diligent searching 
of the Word, can bring you as close as possible.  Some of the threads seem 
to carry on ad infin item, so the rest of the messages get deleted in my 
case, because I am tired of that particular thread.

This is just my opinion for the most part.
I hope Niki and Joshua, you remain on the list. Many of your posts are quite 
valuable.

Yours in Christ,

Ron Poire

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Farewell.

> Joshua:
>
> I will say a few things here, to you and others -- although I probably 
> shouldn't.  I am not the moderator, but I am the list owner, and 
> ultimately responsible for everything that happens here.
>
> I will say that the majority of the list traffic is not what was intended 
> by the founders of the list.  They intended this list to be a place where 
> blind people could discuss their blindness and how it impacted on their 
> religious observances.  Specifically, people were finding that people in 
> their churches were not treating them as equals, because of their 
> blindness.
>
> For some time the list seems to primarily be a religious debating society. 
> While I am not in favor of this -- I have nearly 200 lists to run and 
> watch, the division is not mine, and it can run its list as it sees fit, 
> as long as basic rules aren't violated.  The list description is pretty 
> general, and the current list use is permissible under it, as far as I can 
> see.
>
> You don't want to hear it, probably, but it is not your beliefs that were 
> objected too, but how you pushed them on people.
>
> Now, here is my honest opinion -- that some people won't like, and I 
> reiterate that is just my opinion.  It seems to me that some religious 
> people know that they have the answer.  Either it is from faith, or God or 
> whoever has spoken to them, but they feel they have the answer for 
> everyone.  Either they feel compelled to tell people, convert them etc., 
> or feel the Bible instructs them to do so, so they go forth.
>
> And ... this of course rubs some people the other way, and others have 
> slightly different beliefs.
>
> I have to say that I don't always find Christians to be very tolerant of 
> others and their beliefs, and I would urge you to remember that everybody 
> doesn't believe as you do, and they aren't necessarily wrong.
>
> I will probably burn in hell -- so be it.  Whatever our beliefs, or lack 
> thereof, we still share much more than is different between us. 
> Especially because we are blind, and many of us belong to the NFB.
>
> David Andrews, List Owner
>
>
> At 11:56 AM 6/14/2011, you wrote:
>>It breaks my heart, that Linda took my posts the wrong way.
>>She's the main reason.
>>I'm not trying to get the big head, and act like I knew it all.
>>I discovered this through intense studying of God's word, and I was
>>trying to share the revelation.
>>It's all a part of growing in God, and some people, I'm afraid don't
>>want to study the scriptures that I've laid out there.
>>I'll stay if things clear up, and lighten up.
>>I want to see more stuff on my beliefs allowed on here, and I want the
>>moderators to understand my heart and intent.
>>All beliefs are accepted here, and I would appreciate it, if my
>>beliefs would also be accepted.
>>Blessings, Joshua
>>
>>On 6/14/11, Alan Wheeler <awheeler65 at windstream.net> wrote:
>> > Joshua,
>> > If I gave you the impression you're not welcome here, I apologize. That 
>> > was
>> > never my intent. No one on this list should have done or said anything 
>> > to
>> > make you feel unwelcome, and if they did, that really isn't fair.
>> >
>> > Please accept my invitation to stay, if you would.
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> > [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:41 AM
>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Farewell.
>> >
>> > Well, I want to let you know, that you haven't offended me.
>> > everything's okay between us.
>> > I'll ride this thread out, and then unsubscribe when I get another 
>> > forward.
>> > I would like to talk to everyone on this list, and hear from them.
>> > Blessings, Joshua
>> >
>> > On 6/14/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Joshua,
>> >>   I, for one, am sad to see you go.  I hope I never made you feel
>> >> unwelcome or unwanted-if I did I sincerely appologize.  Your beliefs
>> >> make a lot of sense, you obviously know your Bible, and I'm sad you
>> >> were made to feel unapreciated here  See you at convention, and God
>> >> bless.
>> >>   Kirt
>> >>
>> >> On 6/14/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> >>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>> >>> It's almost been a year, since I subscribed to this list.
>> >>> I've enjoyed my time here, but have found that I'm not welcome here.
>> >>> It seems that my beliefs aren't welcome.
>> >>> I'm unsubscribing from this list.
>> >>> I love everyone of you, and I want to leave you in peace.
>> >>> It's been nice knowing all of you, and I hope to see you at
>> >>> convention, next year, but I'm not posting anymore.
>> >>> Just one more thought about my beliefs before I go.
>> >>> Revelation 4:2, tells us that there's only one throne in Heaven, and
>> >>> one sits on that throne.
>> >>> You can't have 3 people on one throne.
>> >>> I wanted to share that, in my other discussions, but they got cut 
>> >>> off.
>> >>> I'm leaving you with this.
>> >>> Blessings, and goodbye.
>> >>> Joshua Lester
>
>
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