[Faith-talk] question

Fri Apr 6 17:33:48 UTC 2012

no sueing is not an option, just keep looking for a church, she just needs 
to spend time looking and praying.  who wants to go toa church tht is that 
closed minded anyway?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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> Suing won't work. Its only going to make the federation look bad. Your
> friend should keep on looking. Please Share this article with her.
> It is pasted below in its intirity. RJ
> Blind Okeechobee man 'delights' in preaching
> Jul 27, 2011
> By CAROLYN NICHOLS
> Newswriter
>
>
> HAPPY R.J. Sandefur, blind since birth, has been encouraged by his pastor, 
> Randy Huckabee, as he prepares to preach. Courtesy photo
> OKEECHOBEE (FBW)-R.J. Sandefur has taken the words of Psalm 37:4 to heart. 
> A member of First Baptist Church in Okeechobee, the 32-year-old blind man 
> studies about the Lord and trusts God to give him "the delights" of his 
> heart-which is to preach.
> "God is the only one who can call somebody into the ministry, and I know 
> He has called me," Sandefur said.
> The faithful young man does not let an opportunity to preach pass by. He 
> has preached in several churches in the Big Lake Baptist Association in 
> pastors' absences, and he is active in his church's 10-year ministry to 
> teenage boys in a correctional facility for juveniles in Okeechobee.
> "I sometimes preach, and I sometimes just listen to the boys," Sandefur 
> told Florida Baptist Witness. "Some people say, 'Why waste your time?' But 
> I want them to come to Jesus. I don't want anybody to go to hell," he 
> said.
> Sandefur sometimes also teaches the adult sanctuary class at First 
> Baptist. Pastor Randy Huckabee admires his desire to serve.
> "If desire was everything, R.J. would be a pastor now," he told the 
> Witness. "I tell him to stay prayed up and studied up so that when God 
> allows, he can preach."
> Sandefur said he would love to meet and to follow in the paths of two of 
> his heroes, Billy Graham and Charles Stanley.
> "I'd like to talk with them about serving the Lord and other things. If I 
> don't get to meet them in this life, I'll see them in heaven," he said.
> Sandefur preached his first sermon in July 2004 at his home church. Using 
> John 8:1-11, he told the story of the woman caught in adultery, stressing 
> the Pharisees' rush to judgment and Jesus' willingness to give her a 
> second chance. To his great joy, his mother was there to hear him preach.
> "My mother always said, 'I'll be on the front row when you preach your 
> first sermon,' and she was," he said.
> After that sermon, Sandefur said his mom told him, "R.J., you must be a 
> Baptist preacher because you went over by 15 minutes."
> Sandefur was sheltered at home by his late parents, Bobby and Margie, 
> after his premature birth that caused his blindness. He recalled the day 
> visitors from First Baptist's bus ministry came to their home.
> "They asked dad if he had kids, and he told them about my sister. My mom 
> reminded him of me, and he told them I was blind. They said it didn't 
> matter and they would take me, too," he said.
> He has attended the church from then until now except for a brief stint at 
> the Florida School for the Deaf and Blind in St. Augustine as a small 
> child. He returned to Okeechobee to attend fourth grade in regular public 
> school and graduated from high school in 1999. Since then he has completed 
> degrees at Indian River Community College and Florida Atlantic University. 
> In 2005, he completed a ThM degree by correspondence from Andersonville 
> Theological Seminary in Camilla, Ga., and he is working now on his 
> doctorate from there.
> Studying takes up much of his time daily, although he loves to follow 
> NASCAR races on TV, he said. He lives in the house where he grew up with 
> his sister, Robina, her husband, Bernard Marker, and their three children.
> Sandefur equates his blindness with the Apostle Paul's "thorn in the 
> flesh."
> "People ask me if I would want to see, but seeing now would only be 
> temporary. When I get to heaven and see my Savior, then I will be 
> completely whole. I think that God has given me the ability now to see 
> things that sighted people overlook," he said.
> Sandefur's blindness affects his ability to get around, although special 
> training on Saturdays is helping with that. His Bible study is made easier 
> with a "talking Bible machine," he said. He uses a Braille King James 
> Version Bible in the pulpit, and he tries to memorize as much Scripture as 
> possible.
> Waiting on God's timing to enter the pastorate, Sandefur said his pastor, 
> "Brother Randy," encourages him to be patient.
> "R.J. loves to preach. He is a good student and he writes good sermon 
> outlines, and he can preach forever and ever amen," Huckabee said. 
> "Pastoring will be challenge for him, but we can never discount what God 
> can do."
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "PATRICK GORMLEY" <kk3f at msn.com>
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> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:21 PM
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>> Get in touch with Scott LaBarre out there.  This is completely
>> unacceptable and we should shout it from the housetops.  What does it say
>> in James about favoritism?  Seems to me they need to look at those sets 
>> of
>> scriptures before they make these statements.  That's completely
>> unacceptable and is why we have the communities of faith division.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jeanette" <nettiecosp at yahoo.com>
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>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 2:42 AM
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>>> this happened in Colorado Springs Colorado, and  my friend says that
>>> churches are exempt, not sure myself but find it appauling that it
>>> happened at all, jeanette
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "PATRICK GORMLEY" <kk3f at msn.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:12 PM
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>>>> first of all, churches aren't exempt from either the White Cane Law or
>>>> the Civil Rights statutes.  Which state did this occur in?  A couple of
>>>> years ago, Barbara Pierce reported on a similar circumstance at 
>>>> Brooklyn
>>>> Tabernacle and these circumstances we want to hear about because
>>>> religious institutions are the last and probably the most entrenched
>>>> bastion of negative attitudes towards blind persons.  I've never a
>>>> problem in quite sometime because I'm so active in my community that
>>>> people up here know me and accept me.  In any event keep us posted.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jeanette" <nettiecosp at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:14 PM
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>>>>
>>>>>I  have a friend who has run into a snag at local churches.  She has a
>>>>>dog guide and was told by two separate churches yesterday that not only
>>>>>would she not be allowed to take communion at church with her dog but
>>>>>not be allowed to sit anywhere but the back row with the dog. and as a
>>>>>matter of fact, was told by one church she would have to stand outside
>>>>>the sanctuary until the security guard determined it was ok for her to
>>>>>take the dog inside.  She was wondering if anyone has had any kind of
>>>>>similar experience.  Also she said on one of the dog guide list serves 
>>>>>a
>>>>>person posted that she was told by a church in her area that blind 
>>>>>folks
>>>>>were not the kind of folks they wanted in their congregation, really?
>>>>>Jeanette
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