[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Wed Dec 18 17:10:32 UTC 2013

sounds like you attend an awesome church. It sounds like you keep 
involved and your right people won't automatically come to you we have 
to be willing to reach out.
On 12/18/2013 8:28 AM, Maureen Pranghofer wrote:
> Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 
> members and they say right off the bat "If you want to get connected, 
> become involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently I have 
> written music for the church, was on worship team for years, have 
> contributed and been in Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry 
> doing home repair to widows and abused women and disabled folks, am a 
> hospital and nursing home visitor and in a prayer group.  My husband 
> is taking his 7th trip to Haiti where the church built a home for 
> disabled children.  Even though he is in a wheelchair and born with no 
> arms they let him do this.  So we enjoy giving. The church had done 
> lots of ome mantainance things for us, put up our Christmas tree, has 
> youth come once a month to help with whatever we have need of doing, 
> provided me a reader, and as been involved in our lives in so many 
> ways but it's because the church is not the organization, leadership 
> or building it's the people.  We do exposatory preaching working our 
> way through Bible books week after week just a few verses at a time.  
> Took the congregation 5 years to study Matthew.  Maybe there is a 
> relationship between ow the church is in the Word and the way people 
> are treated, don't know just wondering.  I apologize for this being so 
> long.
> Maureen
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
> This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my 
> case I am
> usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have less
> over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a small 
> refuge for
> quite a few families and have a couple give and take open door 
> relationships
> with members of my Church. I have a gentlemen  who is faithful as a
> grandfather clock to call me every friday to see if I want to go to 
> the mens
> breakfast and pick me up bright and early every time. Another lady 
> picks up
> my girls every morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is
> that our Pastor really drives home the point of living out active 
> Christian
> lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great
> oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen 
> to his
> preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is better to 
> give
> then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never the less I am 
> sure that
> there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts in my Church just dying 
> for a
> closer relationship with somebody in the body.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
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>> Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
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>>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because 
>>> of our blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book 
>>> about blind welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the 
>>> author of the book see it, is that there is yet no practical 
>>> substitution to the human eye. For some deaf and hard of hearing 
>>> people there is the cochlear implant and for people who have lost 
>>> limbs or arms there are artificial ones which, although naturally 
>>> not like the originals in their totality, nevertheless work to some 
>>> extent.  Unfortunately even in my church, even though they don't 
>>> pity me, no one will invite me over to their place for a meal and 
>>> some good conversation.  This happened after our Thanksgiving Day 
>>> service, and I pray it won't happen after Christmas Day services 
>>> either.  Hope that was an adequate explanation.  Paul
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must 
>>>> say I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness 
>>>> as something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to 
>>>> pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I 
>>>> know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need 
>>>> some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they 
>>>> can bum money off me
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