[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Wed Dec 18 17:30:21 UTC 2013

One thing I don't think many people understand is that in almost every 
church you have so few people carrying so many of the responsibilities. 
Everyone else can tend to think that eather somebody else will be there to 
pat people on the back, visit the sick, or work in the nursery or ten 
different other things, that is why our Pastor is very dillagent to make the 
needs for different mynistries known weekly at the services as well as by 
weekly email updates. Right now at our Church behind the sceens we are 
talking about the need to build a whole other structure on the property to 
house sand and special sanders and snow plows for the winter. The only local 
company who made sand available on the weekends is no longer doing so, and 
with our congragation consisting of so many elderly and us living in Alaska, 
we can not afford to have an icey acre parking lot and have just one elderly 
person fall and break a hip, it could be a matter of life or death, but this 
is all behind the sceens and will take permits, a couple hundred thousands 
and it has placed a certain amount of stress on people who are also wearing 
ten different other hats and this is just to keep the parking lot safe. This 
is a drop in the bucket of the daily issues and duties that have to be taken 
care of at the church. The point is that many people think the Church is the 
love boat and they don't need to be one of the people who help man the deck, 
they think that it is just a warm building full of smiling faces that they 
can find happyness and companionship in.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sheila" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness


> sounds like you attend an awesome church. It sounds like you keep involved 
> and your right people won't automatically come to you we have to be 
> willing to reach out.
> On 12/18/2013 8:28 AM, Maureen Pranghofer wrote:
>> Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 
>> members and they say right off the bat "If you want to get connected, 
>> become involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently I have written 
>> music for the church, was on worship team for years, have contributed and 
>> been in Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry doing home repair 
>> to widows and abused women and disabled folks, am a hospital and nursing 
>> home visitor and in a prayer group.  My husband is taking his 7th trip to 
>> Haiti where the church built a home for disabled children.  Even though 
>> he is in a wheelchair and born with no arms they let him do this.  So we 
>> enjoy giving. The church had done lots of ome mantainance things for us, 
>> put up our Christmas tree, has youth come once a month to help with 
>> whatever we have need of doing, provided me a reader, and as been 
>> involved in our lives in so many ways but it's because the church is not 
>> the organization, leadership or building it's the people.  We do 
>> exposatory preaching working our way through Bible books week after week 
>> just a few verses at a time.  Took the congregation 5 years to study 
>> Matthew.  Maybe there is a relationship between ow the church is in the 
>> Word and the way people are treated, don't know just wondering.  I 
>> apologize for this being so long.
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Poppa Bear
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>> This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my case I 
>> am
>> usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have less
>> over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a small refuge 
>> for
>> quite a few families and have a couple give and take open door 
>> relationships
>> with members of my Church. I have a gentlemen  who is faithful as a
>> grandfather clock to call me every friday to see if I want to go to the 
>> mens
>> breakfast and pick me up bright and early every time. Another lady picks 
>> up
>> my girls every morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is
>> that our Pastor really drives home the point of living out active 
>> Christian
>> lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great
>> oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen to 
>> his
>> preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is better to 
>> give
>> then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never the less I am sure 
>> that
>> there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts in my Church just dying for 
>> a
>> closer relationship with somebody in the body.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>
>>> Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because of 
>>>> our blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book about 
>>>> blind welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author of 
>>>> the book see it, is that there is yet no practical substitution to the 
>>>> human eye. For some deaf and hard of hearing people there is the 
>>>> cochlear implant and for people who have lost limbs or arms there are 
>>>> artificial ones which, although naturally not like the originals in 
>>>> their totality, nevertheless work to some extent.  Unfortunately even 
>>>> in my church, even though they don't pity me, no one will invite me 
>>>> over to their place for a meal and some good conversation.  This 
>>>> happened after our Thanksgiving Day service, and I pray it won't happen 
>>>> after Christmas Day services either.  Hope that was an adequate 
>>>> explanation.  Paul
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must say 
>>>>> I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as 
>>>>> something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to pity 
>>>>> us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I know 
>>>>> some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need some 
>>>>> faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they can bum 
>>>>> money off me
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